Originally posted by Burning thoughtYou just claimed Kain can cause a Big Bang with an influx of energy that will destroy the universe.
Like you do with most characters you like....I am curious when is it said the Master sword is invincible?
Yeah, I'm clearly the one who exagerrates most of the time here. 😬
His preference is still against Link, who is in this thread, but he sees the validity of the feat, thus he's not the biased one.
I might as well post this here, too, as this is also a Link thread...
This is for people arguing against Link's 1000+ strength. [BT.]
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Diagram as a helpful reference.Screenshot for reference and context.
Granite article v
http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~rmr/definition.html <--source."Since so many people ask me about "weight" [granite not mine]....I have an old reference that says an "average" granite has a density of about 166.5 lb. per cubic foot, or about 2.6 times what the same volume of water would weigh. If its what commercial stone dealers call a "black granite" the density would likely be much higher."
A snippet of my own calculations from a text file on my comp, which I encourage any skeptic to test. They're based on the above screenshot.
"Calcs.
OoT Link.
73 pixels = 6 ft.
Side length= 143 pixels = 11.753 ft /2 = 5.876 ft.Pillar volume in cubic feet; 20075.4 [Base x height.] [Base = radius [9.5] x 1/2 side length [5.876]x 6] 334.59
Height = 60 ft.Weight in pounds per cubic foot depends on the composition.
[usually 166.5 for lighter WHITE granite. Total weight in pounds; 3342554.1]
- 1671.27705 tons.
[Black granite, much more likely; 179. Total weight in pounds; 3593496.6]
- 1796.7483 tons. "Handy calculator;
http://www.ajdesigner.com/phpenergykenetic/kenetic_energy_equation.php Enter any weight I've listed for the stone, and a speed of 75 m/s, then take the energy you get, switch to solving for mass [at the bottom of that page] and enter in the energy, and a speed of 3 m/s. [What someone can lift over their head.]Numbers I settle for based on mass downrounding, ignoring the throw, smaller estimation, and reducing the variables to ridiculous tininess;
1388.994
1160.858
1044.772Any questions? 😐
Originally posted by Burning thought
Kratos as well as that. you know he reminds me a lot of a guy called Violent2Dope who used to hang around here before he got banned, he was a bit vile with his language and obsene but amusing phrases as well as his love for said characters...hmmmm
Starkiller as well.
Nemebro has in the past checked my numbers personally and found them to be without error, I'm not claiming 1700+, I'm claiming 1000+ but showing you in the same post exactly how reasonable I'm being by showing you realistic numbers that I've rounded down so hard that the pillar might as well be made of styrofoam. 😐 He did agree with 1000+, but accepts that it's an 'unknown for sure.' Like anythign in these debates. I even accept that, but I find 1000+ to be an extremely reasonable claim on my part, especially with the large body of evidence backing me up.
The only evidence comes from your ideas and maths, which regardless of its complexity or how correct it is, is not likely what Nintendo imagined or had the idea of when they gave him that strength ,I think like in most of these games they imagined it was just an obstacle, that key (in this case gauntlets) was required to unlock, I dont think they were ever trying to imply Link was a 1000+ tonner, nor Ganon, otherwise the entirety of the rest of the games would make no sense, hundreds of times where Ganon could have just toppled objects, smashed areas etc, and you cant moan about "zomg 30mb" because ime talking about animations, same animations that allow link to toss the rock, and ime also talking about newer games in Ganons case.
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
You do realise that you're:
1. Baiting
2. Denying accurate math and science in pure stubborness
Stop whining, and I think now your the one who is trolling and baiting by annoying me with your pathetic "your naughty BT because you dont believe Screampaste! and would rather ignore the rest of the games just because of an extremely old game with poor graphics and animations using feats that are never seen again in all the many Zelda series.
Your trolling and baiting me while I try and have a debate, please stop it Q'Anilia.
Originally posted by Burning thought
The only evidence comes from your ideas and maths, which regardless of its complexity or how correct it is, is not likely what Nintendo imagined or had the idea of when they gave him that strength ,I think like in most of these games they imagined it was just an obstacle, that key (in this case gauntlets) was required to unlock, I dont think they were ever trying to imply Link was a 1000+ tonner, nor Ganon, otherwise the entirety of the rest of the games would make no sense, hundreds of times where Ganon could have just toppled objects, smashed areas etc, and you cant moan about "zomg 30mb" because ime talking about animations, same animations that allow link to toss the rock, and ime also talking about newer games in Ganons case.
I do doubt Nintendo actually sat down and mathed it before sizing the stone, but they also intentionally made a display of Link's strength when they had him throw it. The camera pans, it's dramatic, he cracks his knuckles, this is the only time in the series he cracks is knuckles, btw. He doesn't even throw it right away, he holds it long enough for the camera to show the full girth of the stone, then tosses is over his shoulder like it's made of styrofoam.
In short; Nintendo meant very clearly for this to be an obvious feat of intense strength. And it is, whether they mathed it or not, they stated it's granite in the official guide, a substance KNOWN for being heavy, they made the stone unnecassarily huge, they had Link suspend it for our viewing pleasure.