Kratos vs Link

Started by NemeBro16 pages

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
It's still questionable. In order to be Chaotic Evil, there must be no laws, no master, no boundaries and no compassion. Must be driven by pure hate and lack any sense of moral. There must be no regrets at all and the idea of killing innocent must not require consideration.

If that fits Kratos (Whichever version of him you are talking about) then he's Chaotic Evil. Although if he wants to redeem himself, that takes him out of the category.

K.

But Kratos does not want to redeem himself. In the first game, he merely wanted to be free of the memories of his family's slaughter by his hand, he did not wish to change who he was.

GoW2 is a plot of revenge against Zeus.

Originally posted by Phanteros
YOU see as evil, might because YOU never seen a perfect example of anti hero.
Anti-hero =/= non-evil.

Originally posted by NemeBro
K.

But Kratos does not want to redeem himself. In the first game, he merely wanted to be free of the memories of his family's slaughter by his hand, he did not wish to change who he was.

GoW2 is a plot of revenge against Zeus.

Then he might be Chaotic Evil 😊 I don't have a clue. I'm just adding together what's said.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Anti-hero =/= non-evil.
he's chaotic neutral at best. its not like your going to get the intended results.

Originally posted by Phanteros
he's chaotic neutral at best. its not like your going to get the intended results.
And at worst he's Chaotic Evil with evil sprinkles of baby-killing, and three seperate flavours of murder and genocide.

Explain why being an anti-hero excludes him from being evil? You don't have to be a villain to be evil.

And I have no 'intended results'. I'm arguing the facts.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
And at worst he's Chaotic Evil with evil sprinkles of baby-killing, and three seperate flavours of murder and genocide.

Explain why being an anti-hero excludes him from being evil? You don't have to be a villain to be evil.

And I have no 'intended results'. I'm arguing the facts.

never seen him kill a baby... as for the genocide, there is no code of conduct(war time restrictions) for the Spartans to follow. fail to follow orders and prepare to pay with your life.
the intended result is to get the master sword effective against kratos

Lesser weapons have been shown to be effective, so it already is effective simply as a powerful magic sword, what I'm saying is it's, to quote pokemon, super-effective!

That's not an intended result, that's what the sword does. The sword repels/destroys evil, and works like an off switch, supressing the power of those it touches.

That's not an intended result, your intended result, however, is to try and work around that and put Link at a disadvantage.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lesser weapons have been shown to be effective, so it already is effective simply as a powerful magic sword, what I'm saying is it's, to quote pokemon, super-effective!

That's not an intended result, that's what the sword does. The sword repels/destroys evil, and works like an off switch, supressing the power of those it touches.

That's not an intended result, your intended result, however, is to try and work around that and put Link at a disadvantage.

the sword is going to behave as a regular magic sword, it only repells evil from it, not instantly destroy it. both characters move just about the same speed. though one is has more range with his and the other has a shield to defend himself.
but Kratos is stronger than link.

Both of the character's best strength feats are unquantifiable,

And no, Kratos is evil, the sword will do what the sword does. 😐 Instantly destroy Kratos? Probably not. Act as anathema to him and weaken him? Yes.

Or Kratos uses his superior physical strength and reflexes to cut Link in half.

Or he will just grab it from Links hands and toss it across the battlefield before smashing Links face into the ground.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Both of the character's best strength feats are unquantifiable,

And no, Kratos is evil, the sword will do what the sword does. 😐 Instantly destroy Kratos? Probably not. Act as anathema to him and weaken him? Yes.

weaken him? ganon was only weaken because he had a lot of injuries. and yes there feats are quantifiable

Qaunify how hard Atlas squeezed.

And no, the sword managed to even supress the triforce of power, effectively turning Ganon off. 😐

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Qaunify how hard Atlas squeezed.

And no, the sword managed to even supress the triforce of power, effectively turning Ganon off. 😐

the fact that he even manged to repell that is a good enough feat.

didn't the fact that link had the triforce of courage had something to do with it?

Great feat, but non-quantifiable.

Originally posted by Phanteros
the fact that he even manged to repell that is a good enough feat.

didn't the fact that link had the triforce of courage had something to do with it?

No, the triforce of courage is the source of Link's personal power, not the sword's.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Great feat, but non-quantifiable.
it is quantifiable because we already know that Kratos resisted being crushed by something weaker than Atlas(Rhodes) so we can at least know for certain that atlas is putting that amount of power into the crush. now you are trying to work out Kratos feats so link can have a chance.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No, the triforce of courage is the source of Link's personal power, not the sword's.
i was saying it was helping him

Originally posted by Phanteros
it is quantifiable because we already know that Kratos resisted being crushed by something weaker than Atlas(Rhodes) so we can at least know for certain that atlas is putting that amount of power into the crush. now you are trying to work out Kratos feats so link can have a chance.
No, once again, I'm arguing facts.

Kratos holding his own in that situation is clearly ridiculously impressive, but there's a limit to how far we can take assumptions. Kratos got injured by the collossus when he was off gaurd, this sort of puts a limit on how hard Atlas could have squeezed.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No, once again, I'm arguing facts.

Kratos holding his own in that situation is clearly ridiculously impressive, but there's a limit to how far we can take assumptions. Kratos got injured by the collossus when he was off gaurd, this sort of puts a limit on how hard Atlas could have squeezed.

well no duh, i mean if he was paying mind to the Rhodes he would of stop it. but seeing as his wasn't focused on it he couldn't do much about it. most characters feats like Cloud chopping sections off a sky scrapper we can apply how much it weigh, but we know that it must be a some where in the tons