Originally posted by The Valiant
Yeah, and the fact that he couldn't really see. Kratos could possibly be evil. I mean, he killed innocents out of the name of Ares.
Yeah, in the name of Ares, his lord at the time. Those acts were out of loyalty to said God. It doesn't detract from the fact that he REALIZED his mistake in serving Ares after that and worked to atone for those sins. Sure, his final task allowed him to get revenge as well, but that's just another driving point in Greek Myth. Hell, even the end of the game suggested Ares' point of view was to benefit Kratos instead of outright deceiving him (or, rather, to help Kratos help him). The fact that Kratos managed to see at least that much of an error in his ways suggests he has at least (fine, at BEST) that much of a semblance of humanity.
Originally posted by The Valiant
You still could kill innocents even AFTER you was done serving Ares. It doesn't change that Kratos was (or rather is) evil.
In gameplay for no other reason than optional benefit. It was never on a mass scale for a goal that would bring about any level of malice when he himself was the one taking care of the ACTUAL threats to the people. Kratos is as of God of War II a violent execution of neutral, where his actions are out of requirement to proceed. He's just as capable of helping as killing (just better/more associated with the latter).
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
If his goal is redemption he's doing it wrong. Chaotic evil.
No matter if he's doing it right or wrong, that would make him Neutral Evil. He has a purpose and he has a degree of moral. Possibly Chaotic Neutral.
If Kratos is Chaotic Evil, he would be ready to slaughter an orphanage, kill family, loved ones in order to get what he wants. He would gut a pregnant wife, steal from a baby, set a city of innocent ablaze and even kick puppies to attain his goal
Originally posted by Q'AniliaKratos actually would and has done that though. 😐
If Kratos is Chaotic Evil, he would be ready to slaughter an orphanage, kill family, loved ones in order to get what he wants. He would gut a pregnant wife, steal from a baby, set a city of innocent ablaze and even kick puppies to attain his goal
We are talking about the guy who when he first became God of War decided to lead a Spartan assault on Athens...For the hell of doing it.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
If his goal is redemption he's doing it wrong. Chaotic evil.
There's no wrong way to redeem oneself . The fact alone that he is working for redemption is enough to take him out of any categor of evil. ESPECIALLY Chaotic Evil. Considering him that much is just proof that calling him evil in the first place is just an excuse to say that the Master Sword would be more effective against him, especially since it's never so much as brought up elsewhere.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Kratos actually would and has done that though. 😐We are talking about the guy who when he first became God of War decided to lead a Spartan assault on Athens...For the hell of doing it.
It's still questionable. In order to be Chaotic Evil, there must be no laws, no master, no boundaries and no compassion. Must be driven by pure hate and lack any sense of moral. There must be no regrets at all and the idea of killing innocent must not require consideration.
If that fits Kratos (Whichever version of him you are talking about) then he's Chaotic Evil. Although if he wants to redeem himself, that takes him out of the category.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteYOU see as evil, might because YOU never seen a perfect example of anti hero.
I don't care why he does all that jackass crap, it's still all evil acts 😬Neutral evil is still evil enough for me. And what you described is a very pure form of Chaotic evil, lesser forms exist. Deicide is a pretty chaotic act that outbalances any lawful act he's ever committed.
Originally posted by ScreamPastesince when did the sword became a balancing act? its just a excuse just to get the sword effective against Kratos which it won't because it still failed to destroy Ganon. you can call him evil all you want but you still won't get your intended results
I don't care why he does all that jackass crap, it's still all evil acts 😬Neutral evil is still evil enough for me. And what you described is a very pure form of Chaotic evil, lesser forms exist. Deicide is a pretty chaotic act that outbalances any lawful act he's ever committed.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I don't care why he does all that jackass crap, it's still all evil acts 😬Neutral evil is still evil enough for me. And what you described is a very pure form of Chaotic evil, lesser forms exist. Deicide is a pretty chaotic act that outbalances any lawful act he's ever committed.
An easy way to determine if he's Chaotic Evil is to compare him to Sargeras. Sargeras is Chaotic Evil. But I wouldn't define Kratos as it. I see him as Neutral Evil, but even then he's still Evil.
Although a weapon that damage "Evil" shouldn't be allowed here. It may damage the definition of evil in Hyrule, or just particular cases of evil in Hyrule, but being evil is a matter of definition. We can't decide what evil is and what that weapon defines as evil, so a weapon that attack evil shouldn't be usable in a thread unless it's against an evil opponent Link has already fought and it proven usable against.