Originally posted by stormultt
i have a crush on juggernaut XDD
Originally posted by stormfront
its cool man.. even with prep doom gets turned into a can of ass meat. she would most likely destroy his castle before charging in, actually rouge storm would destry his country. with no regards to others.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
The only thing that would work is Cain redirecting her lightning.In the third one he knows she is coming so I'm sure he would have Latveria's defenses at their best. SHe could do a lot of damage to it but Doom won't be slow to get there.
redirecting it wouldnt work, she is immune to it.
dooms preparations would make no difference, seeing that she wouldnt need to be in/on is country to destroy it.
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Are you kidding me? If Doom knew she was coming like this this would quickly become a case of Ororo Monroe vs Juggernaut and Rogue-Doom
no, im far from kidding... rouge storm isnt sensitive ororo. and rouge doom.. so now he has infinite power and is a god, with prep???
i think not.. and the more i look at the scenarios, the way storm feels about BP, doom wouldnt have long to prepare. all he would be able to do is dust his coffin and lay in it.
Originally posted by stormfront
redirecting it wouldnt work, she is immune to it.dooms preparations would make no difference, seeing that she wouldnt need to be in/on is country to destroy it.
What happened here? I think what he does is absorb it and rechannels and sends it back as something else hence the change in color.
Also for this fight she has to go to Latveria and actually fight him. If she could do it outside of the country then that would be cheap.
Originally posted by stormfront
no, im far from kidding... rouge storm isnt sensitive ororo. and rouge doom.. so now he has infinite power and is a god, with prep???i think not.. and the more i look at the scenarios, the way storm feels about BP, doom wouldnt have long to prepare. all he would be able to do is dust his coffin and lay in it.
Yeah tbh Doom is pretty beastly with prep. Learned how to shut off the X-Gene, stole Beyonder's powers, Surfers powers, built time machines, he is a beast in the magic department too.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
What happened here? I think what he does is absorb it and rechannels and sends it back as something else hence the change in color.Also for this fight she has to go to Latveria and actually fight him. If she could do it outside of the country then that would be cheap.
she was too weak to resist.
she is comming for blood, not to look in his face. but if you insist, i beleive she wouldfull on destrution still.. and if there is defense to a goddess' wrath then what was the poin in this fight.
Originally posted by stormfront
no, im far from kidding... rouge storm isnt sensitive ororo. and rouge doom.. so now he has infinite power and is a god, with prep???
Galactus and Beyonder at that time could probably destroy our galaxy with a thought and Surfer could at least blow our planet up or get it sucked into a black hole without breaking a sweat.
i think not.. and the more i look at the scenarios, the way storm feels about BP, doom wouldnt have long to prepare. all he would be able to do is dust his coffin and lay in it.
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Galactus and Beyonder at that time could probably destroy our galaxy with a thought and Surfer could at least blow our planet up or get it sucked into a black hole without breaking a sweat
Originally posted by stormfront
and if there is defense to a goddess' wrath then what was the poin in this fight.
I'm having a hard time telling what you mean here? Are you saying that RS should only be in fights that she either stomps or none at all?
Doom can defend against her with prep. I seriously hope you don't think I made this to spite her.
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
He will after he steals her powers. Like what was already mentioned, Doom managed to steal the powers of Surfer, Galactus, and part of pre-retcon Beyonder. Maybe those names don't mean much to you but they're pretty big deals. They have many leather-bound books and their apartments smell of rich mahogany.Galactus and Beyonder at that time could probably destroy our galaxy with a thought and Surfer could at least blow our planet up or get it sucked into a black hole without breaking a sweat.
The way Doom is written, giving him any prep is just asking to give Doom a win. I know it sounds like I'm trying to buff him up but that's how he is.
dont try me dude. those names you mentioned have nothing to do with this fight. and yes i know who they are... maybe your the one that needs to evaluate them..
last thing before i stop posting in this thread.. what is the point of this fight if she is made/set up to lose?
Originally posted by stormfront
dont try me dude. those names you mentioned have nothing to do with this fight. and yes i know who they are... maybe your the one that needs to evaluate them..
last thing before i stop posting in this thread.. what is the point of this fight if she is made/set up to lose?
Originally posted by stormfront
dont try me dude. those names you mentioned have nothing to do with this fight. and yes i know who they are... maybe your the one that needs to evaluate them..last thing before i stop posting in this thread.. what is the point of this fight if she is made/set up to lose?
How is she set up to lose when one scenario has Doom disadvantaged towards her and the first one has them under neutral settings? The third one only gives Doom an advantage.
Re: Dr. Doom vs Rogue-Storm
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Scenario 1: Doom just whooped Black Panther and put his ass in a coma and now he wants him to suffer even more. Doom tracks down Storm at the X-Mansion and out came Rogue-Storm, pissed as hell. No killer intent on either's behalf. No prep for Doom, standard equipment
I.E. This is a neutral setting no prep for Doom and he gets standard equipment.
Scenario 2: Rogue-Storm fights him in Wakanda right after he beat BP's ass and she for argument's sake she did some big emp blast that canceled out his suit's technological offensive abilities so he is only stuck with magic. Killer intent is on.
I.E. She is on home turf and Doom is only left with magic to defend himself.
Scenario 3: RS comes to Latveria with the intentions to kill Doom. Doom knew she would come for him sooner or later so he spent the prior week planning for her arrival and even managed to hire The Juggernaut as a bodyguard. Killer intent is on. Cain can be BFR'd.
I.E. She is on his turf and he gets time to plan and a bodyguard who is able to be BFR'd.
No Doombots, no exploding lungs.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
How is she set up to lose when one scenario has Doom disadvantaged towards her and the first one has them under neutral settings? The third one only gives Doom an advantage.
3rd. senario- she was made/set up to lose. he has immortal juggernaut, has magic barriers aroung his territor, has guns pointed at her to take her power, he has everything set to take her down.
it may not have been your intent but it would have been best to set this up differently.
1 i beleive she wins. not sure with number two.. what can magic do to a goddess???
Originally posted by stormfront
3rd. senario- she was made/set up to lose. he has immortal juggernaut, has magic barriers aroung his territor, has guns pointed at her to take her power, he has everything set to take her down.it may not have been your intent but it would have been best to set this up differently.
1 i beleive she wins. not sure with number two.. what can magic do to a goddess???
Did you not notice the scenario above it where Doom is disadvantaged? Is it impossible to uproot the ground which Cain stands on and chuck it out of Latverian territory?
I made three scenarios, one neutral and the others where one had the advantage.
If needed I and a few others can pull up some of his magical feats. The fact that current Strange fears a battle of magic against him should say quite a bit already.
Compliments of OneDumbGo
X. SORCERYSome folks underestimate Doom's skills with magic. Some folks overestimate them. Hopefully these next set of scans will allow you to form your own opinion. But make no mistake, from the very beginning, magic has been an integral part of Doom's character. In Dr. Doom's very first appearance in Fantastic Four #5, Reed describes Doom, and refers to his sorcery above all else:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...mSorcery015.jpgTheir very first adventure together also involved magical baubles, from Fantastic Four #5:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...mSorcery025.jpgEvery summer, Doom summons Mephisto to battle for his mother's soul, as first recounted in Astonishing Tales #8
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...shingTales8.jpgDoom's dormant magical power was coveted by the Dark Rider, in Marvel Team-Up #43:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...cery04MTU43.jpgDoom's studies extend far and wide. Here, he learns everything that Cagliostro knows in Iron Man #149:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...5IronMan149.jpgDoom demonstrates the ability to see magic at work in Iron Man #150:
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...7IronMan150.jpgDoom uses black magic to summon the greatest power in the universe in Fantastic Four #288:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...orcery08288.jpgDoom again senses powerful mystical forces in Iron Man #249:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...9IronMan249.jpgDoom opens portals into Limbo and wields Illyana's Soulsword in Excalibur #37:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...Excalibur37.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...Excalibur37.jpgIn this age's contest for the title of Sorcerer Supreme, the Aged Genghis' call is heard only by those most learned in the mystic arts in Dr. Strange/Dr. Doom: Triumph and Torment:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...mphTorment1.jpgDoom analyzes and learns mystic combat during the contest for the Sorcerer Supreme title in Dr. Strange/Dr. Doom: Triumph and Torment and immediately begins to make use of it. Doom is the second to last man standing:
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...mphTorment1.jpgDr. Strange tutors Dr. Doom for weeks in the ways of the mystic arts in preparation for their assault on Mephisto:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...mphTorment1.jpgEven in his off-time, Doom is ever trying to increase his mystic knowledge, stealing an ancient book from another dimension, as recounted in Iron Man: Legacy of Doom #2:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...gacyofDoom2.jpgDoom demonstrates his magical superiority over Kun Lun's own Sorcerer Supreme, Master Khan, in Namor #31:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...ry18Namor31.jpgDoom strips and combines Ceranda's magic with his own in Thor Annual 1999 #1. Ceranda's magic was so powerful, it cursed Mjolnir against Thor in subsequent issues:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...Annual19991.jpgDoom can access the Dreamtime with his sorcery, from Fantastic Four vol. 2 #30:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...Sorcery2030.jpgDoom's library is vast and considered to be one of the largest in the world, from Fantastic Four vol. 2 #30:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...Sorcery2130.jpgJust how vast? Here's a spread-page shot of Doom's personal library in Fantastic Four vol. 2 #70:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...Sorcery2270.jpgDoom's magic works even better on entities such as vampires, from Blade #2:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...ery22Blade2.jpgDoom learns sorcery from Morgan le Fay, in Mighty Avengers #9:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...tyAvengers9.jpgHere, Doom learns how to summon the Mindless Ones from Morgen le Fay in Mighty Avengers #11:
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