Metroid: Other M

Started by REXXXX22 pages

Characterization of Samus being minimal in those games.

How would we rate Other M in those terms?

Originally posted by REXXXX
Good question. I dunno, I just didn't put the time commitment in. And now my Gamecube is on the fritz.

They're dirt cheap now, so yeah.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Narrative arc that's existed for ages.

Though in Echoes, it's actually not Samus who goes all dark and edgy (difficult to do with how much characterization is even seen during the Primes), but rather the world itself.

Heh, yeah, done poorly so often though.

Huh. I've never really gotten what the Prime trilogy was really about. It seems like it's almost a sort of sidestory, I guess?

I just don't like anything first person, really. Annoying and difficult viewpoint.

I like it best, myself.

Originally posted by Peach
They're dirt cheap now, so yeah.

Heh, yeah, done poorly so often though.

Huh. I've never really gotten what the Prime trilogy was really about. It seems like it's almost a sort of sidestory, I guess?

I just don't like anything first person, really. Annoying and difficult viewpoint.


In essence, it's about a radioactive and mutagenic substance called Phazon, and named for the main adversary linked to it. It is essentially a sidestory in that it's fully-enclosed by the end of the trilogy, not really influencing the rest of the series lore.

Though it gave us an incredible amount of information on the Space Pirates, which was the most enjoyable part for me, as they were handled very well.

I'm hopin' they make another D side-scroller with updated graphics. Even if it is on the virtual console.

Peach you shouldn't think of the Prime series as FPS games - they really aren't. Most everything is done by auto targeting. It's almost completely about atmosphere, and a lot of jumping puzzles.

Metroid Prime Hunters is the most plot... extraneous, in that it fails to have Metroids, Space Pirates (plural) or even Phazon in it, casting doubt on both the 'Metroid' and 'Prime' part of the the title. They got the 'Hunters' bit right, but I think we are meant to feel lucky that Samus is even in it.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
In essence, it's about a radioactive and mutagenic substance called Phazon, and named for the main adversary linked to it. It is essentially a sidestory in that it's fully-enclosed by the end of the trilogy, not really influencing the rest of the series lore.

Though it gave us an incredible amount of information on the Space Pirates, which was the most enjoyable part for me, as they were handled very well.

Information is good.

And I see, that makes sense. Just was curious because there wasn't any mention of anything from it in Fusion that I could see, even though I've noticed they're generally very good at linking things from the games together, and I think the came out about the same time.

Originally posted by BackFire
Peach you shouldn't think of the Prime series as FPS games - they really aren't. Most everything is done by auto targeting. It's almost completely about atmosphere, and a lot of jumping puzzles.

It's actually not the shooter bit that bugs me here - it's Metroid, they're sidescrolling shooters for the most part. It's the first-person bit. I just really tend to dislike first-person views in games.

Fusion was virtually simultaneous with Prime.

However, the bigger issue is- Nintendo Japan actively doesn't care about Prime. Harsh but true. None of Other M played any attention at all to Prime existing.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Metroid Prime Hunters is the most plot... extraneous, in that it fails to have Metroids, Space Pirates (plural) or even Phazon in it, casting doubt on both the 'Metroid' and 'Prime' part of the the title. They got the 'Hunters' bit right, but I think we are meant to feel lucky that Samus is even in it.

It is a bit funny that Hunters is a disconnected spin-off of a disconnected spin-off. But fitting, as it was a rather poorly done game, and reeked of cash-in.

Originally posted by BackFire
Peach you shouldn't think of the Prime series as FPS games - they really aren't. Most everything is done by auto targeting. It's almost completely about atmosphere, and a lot of jumping puzzles.

"Auto-targeting," little defense as it is, does not really count after the whole series adopted the Corruption control scheme. I would completely say that the Primes are FPSes with a focus on exploration and item collection.

Originally posted by Peach
And I see, that makes sense. Just was curious because there wasn't any mention of anything from it in Fusion that I could see, even though I've noticed they're generally very good at linking things from the games together, and I think the came out about the same time.

Fusion and Prime released nearly together. The two games even had link cable interactivity.

Hunters was quite the achievement in its own way, though.

I also genuinely think the series could do with going a bit beyond Samus. Hunters' multiplayer mode is the only time you've ever controlled a non-Samus option, and each Hunter had their own set of tricks.

If you extended that into a proper, full production game you could have a stupendous winner. The co-op possibilities are tantalising.

I suppose everyone wants Samus to keep being alone though.

Personally I pine for a game where you play a Space Pirate. Using Retro Studios' established lore.

But I sorely doubt that will happen.

I kind of want a sequel to Fusion...

Also revamped remakes of Metroid II and Super Metroid on the DS would be awesome.

Super Metroid would only need tweaking. M2 could do with the Zero Mission works, though.

I want a sequel to Fusion as well, but I'm not pining for that as much because after Other M's plot tying into Fusion so securely, I'm sure Fusion's sequel is upcoming.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Super Metroid would only need tweaking. M2 could do with the Zero Mission works, though.

Yeah, I mean Super Metroid probably wouldn't need a full remake like they did with the Final Fantasy games on the DS, but a rerelease would be nice.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
I want a sequel to Fusion as well, but I'm not pining for that as much because after Other M's plot tying into Fusion so securely, I'm sure Fusion's sequel is upcoming.

That and they're probably running out of places to insert in new bits of story between ZM and Fusion at this point.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Personally I pine for a game where you play a Space Pirate. Using Retro Studios' established lore.

But I sorely doubt that will happen.

A game with a Space Pirate would be great. Prime revealed alot of super awesome cool details about them, do want to play as one.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
"Auto-targeting," little defense as it is, does not really count after the whole series adopted the Corruption control scheme. I would completely say that the Primes are FPSes with a focus on exploration and item collection.

I can't say. I haven't played the prime games with the Wii control scheme, barely even played Corruption. Makes sense though, I forgot that they went back and changed all the prior games.

Originally posted by Peach
Huh. I've never really gotten what the Prime trilogy was really about. It seems like it's almost a sort of sidestory, I guess?

Basically. It's a well elaborated sidestory though, but the plot of the series (as a whole) can function just as well without it, pretty much. Wouldn't say it makes the Primes any less worth playing, however.

An interesting editorial/analysis/critique that I felt should be posted, being the controversial game Other M is.

http://moonbase.rydia.net/mental/blog/gaming/metroid-other-m-the-elephant/article.html

Thoughts from those who played it? mmm