Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Why do you own a computer? A car? A television set? An Ipod? A Microwave? An Suv? A boat? etc, etc, etc
I also own a cat. But it doesn't spit bullets at people and kills them.
Originally posted by Kinneary
Isn't the rate of violent crime in England nearly twice that of America?
American ratio is 5.8 while England's is 1.37.
EDIT: I just checked and South Africa is not First World. Therefore America has the hitghest murder rate in the First World.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You use guns to communicate, do math, travel, listen to music and cook food?
I use guns for fun. I shoot at a lot of different types of targets. I collect for historical and monetary value. I shoot nothing alive, I don't hunt. All of my guns except 2 are disassembled when not in use.
Lets talk about how many people guns kill in America every year , then lets talk about how many alchohol and tobacco kill.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Come on, what an idiotic comparison.I also own a cat. But it doesn't spit bullets at people and kills them.
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Oh gimme a break. Lets look at the REAL numbers behind gun vioence. Canada, has a rate of gun ownership comparable to the US yet it's rate of gun violence is much lower, there must be other contributing factors.
As for your sig, what's your alternative?
Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Oh gimme a break. Lets look at the REAL numbers behind gun vioence. Canada, has a rate of gun ownership comparable to the US yet it's rate of gun violence is much lower, there must be other contributing factors.As for your sig, what's your alternative?
Canada has hardly comparable rate to America, seeing how out of 100 people in America 90 will own guns while in Canada 30 would - three times less.
Switzerland is a society with one of the lowerst crime rates in the world (together with Japan) and the gun ownership high there (comparable with US), but the murder rate is not.
That says a lot about people who own guns, no?
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Switzerland is a society with one of the lowerst crime rates in the world (together with Japan) and the gun ownership high there (comparable with US), but the murder rate is not.
And in contrast Japan has almost absurdly strict gun control laws. That begin with the words "No-one shall possess a fire-arm or fire-arms or a sword or swords." and then proceeds to list like four exceptions.
So Switzerland and Japan together would be perfect proof that owning and not owning guns doesn't really have the biggest effect on crime rates.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
UK Home Office of what?
Originally posted by KidRock
1. Seems like guns were not the problem of violence.
2. It would seem that gun control is obviously not the answer. In fact, it is ALMOST mutually exclusive. (BTW, this is the kind of stuff I was trying to get Leon to post in the other thread, but he wouldn't. I already know most of this stuff...but I wanted him to post it. That's why he wouldn't post it because his argument didn't fit the data in most places.)
Originally posted by dadudemon
1. Seems like guns were not the problem of violence.2. It would seem that gun control is obviously not the answer. In fact, it is ALMOST mutually exclusive. (BTW, this is the kind of stuff I was trying to get Leon to post in the other thread, but he wouldn't. I already know most of this stuff...but I wanted him to post it. That's why he wouldn't post it because his argument didn't fit the data in most places.)
Exactly. All the restriction did was put the law abiding citizens that carry guns for protection at risk.
Originally posted by KidRock
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=UK+home+office
What a delightfully dickish site. Home Office is such a delightfully generic name that googling it didn't really occur to me.