Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Why do you own a computer? A car? A television set? An Ipod? A Microwave? An Suv? A boat? etc, etc, etc
Your question/analogy would be more honest if you had said:
Why do you own 16 computers? A 16 cars? A television set? 16 Ipods? 16 Microwaves? 16 Suvs? 16 boats? etc, etc, etc
Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
I use guns for fun. I shoot at a lot of different types of targets. I collect for historical and monetary value. I shoot nothing alive, I don't hunt. All of my guns except 2 are disassembled when not in use.Lets talk about how many people guns kill in America every year , then lets talk about how many alchohol and tobacco kill.
Lets talk about how if you pay for a beer, you drink.
If you pay for some cigarettes, you smoke.
But you can always get some lead through you for free, courtesy of someone else against your will....
So by your analogy, would it be acceptable for you for have cigarette smoke blown in your face all day..?
Or have every drop of liquid in your life changed magically to pure alchohol, without your permission...?
And when was the last time that a kid stole his dads beers/smokes and killed like 30 people in a school...?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Your question/analogy would be more honest if you had said:Why do you own 16 computers? A 16 cars? A television set? 16 Ipods? 16 Microwaves? 16 Suvs? 16 boats? etc, etc, etc
Lots of people have multiple cars, TV sets, computers, etc. I live by myself and have 3 cars.
I have different guns because the guns themselves are different from each other.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Lets talk about how if you pay for a beer, you drink.If you pay for some cigarettes, you smoke.
But you can always get some lead through you for free, courtesy of someone else against your will....
So by your analogy, would it be acceptable for you for have cigarette smoke blown in your face all day..?
Or have every drop of liquid in your life changed magically to pure alchohol, without your permission...?
And when was the last time that a kid stole his dads beers/smokes and killed like 30 people in a school...?
What about the people second hand smoke kills?
How about the people killed by drunk drivers?
I like ways of thinking like yours. Lets ban everything that's potentially dangerous....oh wait...lets only ban what OTHERS use, not what I use.
It's like one of the biggest gun control advocates in the US Senate, Diane Feinstein of Ca, wants to take everyone elses guns away but carries one herself. It's all about justice...just us.
****ing hypocrites.
Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
What about the people second hand smoke kills?How about the people killed by drunk drivers?
I like ways of thinking like yours. Lets ban everything that's potentially dangerous....oh wait...lets only ban what OTHERS use, not what I use.
It's like one of the biggest gun control advocates in the US Senate, Diane Feinstein of Ca, wants to take everyone elses guns away but carries one herself. It's all about justice...just us.
****ing hypocrites.
Thats not where I stand on it.
But way to pre-emptively slander my pov though.
Im not talking about banning everything. Just dangerous weapons.
Its true that passive smoking can do damage. And I support the enclosed workplace non-smoke rule. So thats part of why your hypocrite tag is the bullshit that it clearly is.
Its true that drinking kills but If you drink enough, you are the one who's organs will fail..
Banning drink driving maybe more helpful if you want to analogise it better. (since that harms others) And they've done that.
(And smoking is a near hanging offence in public places now,
so the time has come for flying hot lead to be taken out of our air too.)
But seriously, I would just rather have everyone be moderate and sensible on such issues, but nope. That never seems to work.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Thats not where I stand on it.Im not talking about banning everything. Just dangerous weapons.
Its true that passive smoking can do damage.
Its true that drinking kills but If you drink enough, you are the one who's organs will fail..
Banning drink driving maybe more helpful if you want to analogise it better. (since that harms others) And they've done that.(And smoking is a near hanging offence in public places now,
so the time has come for flying hot lead to be taken out of our air too.)But seriously, I would just rather have everyone be moderate and sensible on such issues, but nope. That never seems to work.
There are 250 million guns in America. What do you honestly think would happen if they were banned outright?
I am not opposed to tougher background checks and safety standards.
I am not opposed to someone having to show they compentantly know how to handle and fire a gun before they own one. I am opposed to only the government and some corporations being able to have them though.
Well, naturally it'd drive a bunch underground, (but there are TONNES of unlicenced firearms already.)
Then the police'd have to declare an amnesty, then with massive sentences introduced for those with illegal possession of a firearm, time and effort would likely start to get the numbers down.
And for all those still thinking that bullets can prevent you being shot, buy bullet proof vests...?
Put pressure on the government to stop making so much money selling the things...? IE "F**k with us on this and you and your administration are history." at the voting....
Good to hear that at least you seem to be a moderate.
Problem is with screening is, its not infailiable. And life can really throw you into some crazy positions with next to no notice whatsoever.
The test cannot detect that your wife sleeps with the gym instructor later down the line or whatever that causes that magic moment of snapping that causes those rampages.
IE you cannot guarantee where you'll be in 5 years in this crazy old life, let alone 1 test working for life.
And I can feel you thining maybe "Yeah but Im mentally stronger than that" well you never know, besides, there are al lot of folk out there who arent.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
But why not 16?
16 guns cost waaaaaaaaaay less than 3 cars, I'm sure.
Also, I'm sure that those 16 guns are separate models or even multiple gun classes.
You should go shooting. It's fun. It's a whole lot more acurate then shooting a bow and Arrow or a rubber band gun. 🙂 I like it.
BTW, I got my rifle shooting merit badge. 😄