Originally posted by BUSTER1
Creed is somewhere between 15-25 tons, I believe
Logan is somewhere between 1000lbs and 2tons
logan is officialy able to lift in excess of 800lbs, hes been stated to have enahaned strength which means 800lbs to 2ton range (it desn't necessarily mean he can lift 2 tons though, he can lift withing thouse limits), also marvel has staed that logans strength is due to his skelteon , so his pressing ability might be less without it 😖
as for creed , where on earth did you pull those figures from? your numbers are clearly speculation based on evidence iassume, but i ahve seen the sabretooth respect trhead nad dont think class 15 or even 25 is suitable
creed doesn't have an offical strength figure, however it is accepted that before further enahcncements he had equal strength to logan (800lb to 2 ton range),
is he stronger than spiderman,us agent etc class 10?
class 15-25 is too high 🙁
Originally posted by ankur29
also marvel has staed that logans strength is due to his skelteon , so his pressing ability might be less without it 😖
Due to his adamantium skeleton AND healing factor.
Originally posted by ankur29
creed doesn't have an offical strength figure, however it is accepted that before further enahcncements he had equal strength to logan (800lb to 2 ton range)
Equal...? 😬
Hard as I hit... he hit harder.
But Sabretooth is larger, faster, stronger.
Originally posted by ankur29
class 15-25 is too high 🙁
Not really. Check his respect thread again.
Originally posted by ankur29
logan is officialy able to lift in excess of 800lbs, hes been stated to have enahaned strength which means 800lbs to 2ton range (it desn't necessarily mean he can lift 2 tons though, he can lift withing thouse limits), also marvel has staed that logans strength is due to his skelteon , so his pressing ability might be less without it 😖as for creed , where on earth did you pull those figures from? your numbers are clearly speculation based on evidence iassume, but i ahve seen the sabretooth respect trhead nad dont think class 15 or even 25 is suitable
creed doesn't have an offical strength figure, however it is accepted that before further enahcncements he had equal strength to logan (800lb to 2 ton range),
is he stronger than spiderman,us agent etc class 10?
class 15-25 is too high 🙁
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Due to his adamantium skeleton AND healing factor.Equal...? 😬
Not really. Check his respect thread again.
i did say it is acepted that they are equal , it is a misconception that they are of the same strength caliber, i have mistyped my point sorry , i do agree sabretoothis stroger thanwolverine , but since wolverine's strength is uncertain , so is sabretooths
what feats of his are you trying to suggest put sabretooth clas 15- 25 ,has he ever pressed 25tons above his head? taht would make him as strong as cage,
specualtion is always speculation 😕 . calss 15 - 25 is overambiguous in my opinion , and yes i have checked thread again thank you 🙂
Originally posted by ankur29
ispecualtion is always speculation 😕 . calss 15 - 25 is overambiguous in my opinion , and yes i have checked thread again thank you 🙂
Originally posted by Battlehammer
really if you did you would have seen that sabre-tooth has 3 shot rouge a class 75 tonner. gone toe to toe with ms marvel who a 50 tonner. You would have seen that he over powered a force field that even a rage bull elephant could not. You also would have seen that he had up grades given to him by weapon x in strength. You also would have seen him swinging around roughly a 10 ton generator like a base ball bat
I'm glad you have mad those points
sabretooth vs class 75 , could be down to him have a good healing factor, his HF is so good that a class 75 cant knock him out
, he just needs to have sufficient strength to to knock around a woman of rouge or ms marvel's weight 🙂, his skill could of come into play when knocking her out or knocking her out could be incorrect altogether, whats rogues greatest strength/durability feat ,compared with sabretooths strongest feat, should she of been knocked out ?
also being able to fight someone who is stronger than you isnt really a indication of how strong you are
bruce lee coould fight worlds strongest man etc sm fights rhino, dadredevil fights spiderman, cap fights poel who are stronger than him etc
where was it stated the generator weighed 10 tons, sone big thing sometimes only weigh very little and vice versa
hence class 15-25 is speculation
Originally posted by Battlehammer
he also has hundreds and hundreds of more appearances and has several comic lines.however when they confronted one another sabre-tooth easily grabbed him and was shown as the stronger of the two.
when was this, SM has his share of low showings , hes been overpowered by kingpin who is a human
Originally posted by ankur29
when was this, SM has his share of low showings , hes been overpowered by kingpin who is a human
late 90's. how is that a low showing? sabre-tooth is suposes to have great deal of superhuman strength and has been that way since being a wolverine villain. sabre-tooth also easily broken spidermans webbing.
Originally posted by ankur29
I'm glad you have mad those pointssabretooth vs class 75 , could be down to him have a good healing factor, his HF is so good that a class 75 cant knock him out
, he just needs to have sufficient strength to to knock around a woman of rouge or ms marvel's weight 🙂, his skill could of come into play when knocking her out or knocking her out could be incorrect altogether, whats rogues greatest strength/durability feat ,compared with sabretooths strongest feat, should she of been knocked out ?
He straight up knocked in two shots through power alone.
oh so now every time sabre-tooth accomplished something it was pis? nice.
Originally posted by ankur29
being able to fight someone who is stronger than you isnt really a indication of how strong you are
Originally posted by ankur29
lee coould fight worlds strongest man etc sm fights rhino, dadredevil fights spiderman, cap fights poel who are stronger than him etc
Originally posted by ankur29
was it stated the generator weighed 10 tons, sone big thing sometimes only weigh very little and vice versahence class 15-25 is speculation
Look it up. generator that size jinzin looked up would weight 10 tons he even gave a link in the respect thread i believe.
almost every single characters strength in specualation. 15 tons to 25 seems right when he toss around 10 ton object looking stronger then a 10 tonner ect.
also how strong a full raging bull elephant?
Originally posted by Battlehammer
He had classic level healing factor at the time, which was shitty, he was simply that dense.He straight up knocked in two shots through power alone.
oh so now every time sabre-tooth accomplished something it was pis? nice.
It is when your doing it through sheer power. His muscles were so dense ms marvel could not pressure point him......
yes, but bruce lee not going hit for hit with them.
Look it up. generator that size jinzin looked up would weight 10 tons he even gave a link in the respect thread i believe.
almost every single characters strength in specualation. 15 tons to 25 seems right when he toss around 10 ton object looking stronger then a 10 tonner ect.
also how strong a full raging bull elephant?
i never said evertime he deoes sumin its pis 🙁
going hit for hit coudl eb due to healing factor
raging bull elephant ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Elephant
males can get as big as 15,000 lbs (6,800 kg)., 6.8 tons and im pretty sure they can't lift their bodyweight
Originally posted by ankur29
i never said evertime he deoes sumin its pis 🙁going hit for hit coudl eb due to healing factor
raging bull elephant ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Elephant
males can get as big as 15,000 lbs (6,800 kg)., 6.8 tons and im pretty sure they can't lift their bodyweight
lol
it was due to durability, they comment on his muscles density.
sabre-tooth broke a force field designed to stop a charging raging bull elephant lol.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
lolit was due to durability, they comment on his muscles density.
sabre-tooth broke a force field designed to stop a charging raging bull elephant lol.
a charging elephant , sounds like hyperbole and I’ll explain why
African elephant has a top speed of 39km/h (10.8m/s)
source: http://a-z-animals.com/animals/african-elephant/
now charging would be full speed times mass
therefore the force field would be designed to stop
(max mass of the elephant on the site of the speed) x top speed of elephant
i.e. 6800kg *10.8m/s =73440 keg/s
she'd have to be class 75 to overcome that barrier
regardless the same sabretooth who had Spiderman in a hold , was beaten horribly by Luke cage (who was class 3 at the time I think)
also cap has one shorted the hulk , sabretooth 3 shotting rogue still doesn’t mean he’s class 25 ,also wouldn’t that make him 12.5 x as strong as Logan
Originally posted by ankur29
i never said evertime he deoes sumin its pis 🙁going hit for hit coudl eb due to healing factor
raging bull elephant ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Elephant
males can get as big as 15,000 lbs (6,800 kg)., 6.8 tons and im pretty sure they can't lift their bodyweight
Elephants can drag 10 tons and horses hit with 7 tons of force at a gallop... Sabretooth able to outpower a charging elephant is easily a ten ton feat. 😐
And Cage was well into the ten ton class range when he fought Graydon Sabres...
Originally posted by jinzin
Elephants can drag 10 tons and horses hit with 7 tons of force at a gallop... Sabretooth able to outpower a charging elephant is easily a ten ton feat. 😐And Cage was well into the ten ton class range when he fought Graydon Sabres...
it said cahrging elephant , not dragging elephant 🙁
techincally being able to overcome would make sabretooth class 75
Originally posted by ankur29
it said cahrging elephant , not dragging elephant 🙁techincally being able to overcome would make sabretooth class 75
I... understand that... I just mentioned the dragging part to make my point more effective.
I don't know about 75 tons but yes it's well over ten.
There should really be no question that Sabretooth's well into the ten ton limit and above hoisting generator's up from their bolted locations.
And yes, most generators the size of a small car are about 10 tons in weight.
Unfortunately I went back to the thread I posted the link in and it's dead.
But hell, even these little guys are 4 tons a piece.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/03/_army-runs-on-its-stomach.php
In the same arc Sabretooth was ripping men apart who had tensil strength of skin enough to resist Adamantium claws; steel has a tensil strength of 28 tons PSI. 😐
He's also done the same to a Shiva droid.
As Hammer stated he held Spiderman down with one hand, and while you did try to discredit the feat with Cage, he arguably overpowered Cage in their first fight during a scramble too. 😕
He's held a massive blast door over his head with 1 hand.
Ripped a huge steel I-beam out of it's secure location with one hand.
Sabretooth's ridiculously strong, even though Claremont sometimes like to pretend otherwise.
