How strong is Wolverine compared to Sabretooth?

Originally posted by jinzin
I... understand that... I just mentioned the dragging part to make my point more effective.

I don't know about 75 tons but yes it's well over ten.

There should really be no question that Sabretooth's well into the ten ton limit and above hoisting generator's up from their bolted locations.
And yes, most generators the size of a small car are about 10 tons in weight.
Unfortunately I went back to the thread I posted the link in and it's dead.

But hell, even these little guys are 4 tons a piece.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/03/_army-runs-on-its-stomach.php

In the same arc Sabretooth was ripping men apart who had tensil strength of skin enough to resist Adamantium claws; steel has a tensil strength of 28 tons PSI. 😐

He's also done the same to a Shiva droid.

As Hammer stated he held Spiderman down with one hand, and while you did try to discredit the feat with Cage, he arguably overpowered Cage in their first fight during a scramble too. 😕

He's held a massive blast door over his head with 1 hand.

Ripped a huge steel I-beam out of it's secure location with one hand.

Sabretooth's ridiculously strong, even though Claremont sometimes like to pretend otherwise.

creed would have to be excess class 75 for the elephant feat to be credible i did the math 😮

momentum =mass * velocity
max mass x max speed = desgned to stop charging bull elephant

6800kg (i quite sure it can be more ) x fastest speed of an african elephant 11.1 m/s (25mph) = 75,480 kgm/s
in tons thats 75.48 tons

besides isnt this consisent with hammer saying he was knocking around and 3 shotting class 70's and 50's

tbh those geneartor you showed looks the same size if not bigger than the one sabretooth ripped 😕

also cage overpowered him and almost choked him as far as i can recall
(when did cage become class 25? i thought he was class 3 and then 25 after extra experiments), the rolling around bit , well yh kingpins wrestled spiderman down so it deosnt mean cage and sabretooth on same level or even comparable

i mean king fat human can lift like twice bodyweight spiderman can lift 10 tons

as for the spiderman i think spidey wasnt really putting alot of effort into breaking free , i think sabretooth got off him moments after aswell , so he wasnt really overpowered but rather groped 😄

Originally posted by ankur29
creed would have to be excess class 75 for the elephant feat to be credible i did the math 😮

momentum =mass * velocity
max mass x max speed = desgned to stop charging bull elephant

6800kg (i quite sure it can be more ) x fastest speed of an african elephant 11.1 m/s (25mph) = 75,480 kgm/s
in tons thats 75.48 tons

besides isnt this consisent with hammer saying he was knocking around and 3 shotting class 70's and 50's

Ah you're using the absolute top running speeds huh?

I figured on using an average for Elephant charging speed (around 18 mph)

Originally posted by ankur29
tbh those geneartor you showed looks the same size if not bigger than the one sabretooth ripped 😕

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You do realize that the men are pushing both generators on a dolly/trailer right? Look closer, you can see that the generators are hoisted on top of the trailer. It's not the entire thing.

Originally posted by ankur29
also cage overpowered him and almost choked him as far as i can recall

Originally posted by ankur29
(when did cage become class 25? i thought he was class 3 and then 25 after extra experiments),

Originally posted by ankur29
the rolling around bit , well yh kingpins wrestled spiderman down so it deosnt mean cage and sabretooth on same level or even comparable

Originally posted by ankur29
as for the spiderman i think spidey wasnt really putting alot of effort into breaking free , i think sabretooth got off him moments after aswell , so he wasnt really overpowered but rather groped 😄

If that's what you want to think. I think it's a bit ridiculous to assume that Spiderman was just "letting" Sabretooth slam him belly down into the ground, but that's just me.....

Now as I did have other examples and all of them show some form of superhuman strength well into the 10 ton range and beyond... again, there should be no question to Sabes' strength class. 😬

Originally posted by jinzin
Ah you're using the absolute top running speeds huh?

I figured on using an average for Elephant charging speed (around 18 mph)

wouldnt forge design something that would resist the maximum momentum of a charging elephant

even so 6800kg x 8m/s (18mph)

54400kg m/s hench able to exert over 54 tons

, that is over twice as much as the people on these threads believe him to be

the spiderman being pinned down (i you want to cal i that, spiderman wasn'tstrugglin to get him off , and didnt seem to be trying ) was only for one panel , not enough to decide sabes strength so great he can hold SM helpessly

oh yes to teh OP questons accroding to genral consensus sabretooth is 12.5 stronger (if not more , howevr this fgure of class 25 does seem to ignore his elephant force feild feat ) assuming logan is able to lift 2 tons ,

hmm

hey jinzin i have a reservation about calling logan a 2 tonner,here's my observation ive seen that ultimate cap is a 2 tonner 'offically' and his high end feats...:

holds up a falling enormous tree (i think this was under duress)

flips a tank(i doubt this was under duress , i don't really see his life and death motivation )

...trumps logans high end strength feats (i think these are his best strength feast :throwing dumpster,throws shark,holding elevator)

if look to high end feats to determine a standard strength level shouldn't logan be less than 2 tons compared to ult cap?? i was thinkning 1 ton ?

cause cap being a 2 tonner is not really debatable/inacurate as 2 tons seems perfect ( he is stated by fury as able to press lift a toyota &i doubt fury BS , and he single arm curls ~600lbs ) 2 tons seem right

Originally posted by ankur29
hey jinzin i have a reservation about calling logan a 2 tonner,here's my observation ive seen that ultimate cap is a 2 tonner 'offically' and his high end feats...:

holds up a falling enormous tree (i think this was under duress)

flips a tank(i doubt this was under duress , i don't really see his life and death motivation )

...trumps logans high end strength feats (i think these are his best strength feast :throwing dumpster,throws shark,holding elevator)

As for the tank feat I have to see it, but from the feats ive seen Logan ae better then ultimate capts.

Originally posted by ankur29

if look to high end feats to determine a standard strength level shouldn't logan be less than 2 tons compared to ult cap?? i was thinkning 1 ton ?

Also ult capt strength feats arnt better and they sure as hell arnt twice as good.

Also that tank feat was ult wolverine I think and it was a hummer I believe.

Originally posted by ankur29

Cause cap being a 2 tonner is not really debatable/inacurate as 2 tons seems perfect ( he is stated by fury as able to press lift a toyota &i doubt fury BS , and he single arm curls ~600lbs ) 2 tons seem right

But it doesent seem right for wolverine? Who in one of his first apeareances broke unbreakable metal with strength, was made to weight tons and the extremely thick floor gave out before him. Man who has lifted 6 men over his head an throw them, who through 1,600 trash dumbster ect.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
How does holding up a tree trump wolverines feat? Also Logan has picked a tree up and swung it around like a base ball bat. He also cut and punched a tree big one on to ghost rider.

its a big tree!!!

(kudos to wickerman for scans)

Originally posted by Battlehammer

As for the tank feat I have to see it, but from the feats ive seen Logan ae better then ultimate capts.

yh about that,soryy but i've let you down , the tank thing never happened in the comic it was not from the ultimate avenger animated film

Originally posted by Battlehammer

Here the problem for one Logan really has never shown to not beable to lift anything under two tons. He really does not have low strength feats due to not being strong enough.

Also ult capt strength feats arnt better and they sure as hell arnt twice as good.

Also that tank feat was ult wolverine I think and it was a hummer I believe.

But it doesent seem right for wolverine? Who in one of his first apeareances broke unbreakable metal with strength, was made to weight tons and the extremely thick floor gave out before him. Man who has lifted 6 men over his head an throw them, who through 1,600 trash dumbster ect.

it only doesn't seem right cause i haven't seen any "in your face" lifting feats i.e like press lifting , it like a unwritten practice that a strong guy will lift a car in their career , but this doesn;t really dispute logan's strength

1600 trash dumpsters?? or 1600lbs? can you direct me to the made to weigh tons thing , i am proabaly overlooking it in logan respect thread and can't d find it 😖 in

sadly breaking restrains/chains doesn't mean much to marvel these day

captain america reborn , sharon carter no super powers breaks red skull's restrains :

Originally posted by ankur29
hey jinzin i have a reservation about calling logan a 2 tonner,here's my observation ive seen that ultimate cap is a 2 tonner 'offically' and his high end feats...:

holds up a falling enormous tree (i think this was under duress)

flips a tank(i doubt this was under duress , i don't really see his life and death motivation )

...trumps logans high end strength feats (i think these are his best strength feast :throwing dumpster,throws shark,holding elevator)

if look to high end feats to determine a standard strength level shouldn't logan be less than 2 tons compared to ult cap?? i was thinkning 1 ton ?

cause cap being a 2 tonner is not really debatable/inacurate as 2 tons seems perfect ( he is stated by fury as able to press lift a toyota &i doubt fury BS , and he single arm curls ~600lbs ) 2 tons seem right

I just equate this to the fact that Ultimate Cap is a casual 2 ton lifter, that figure doesn't suggest what he can do under duress or with great effort as Wolverine's figure also does not. It's no wonder Ultimate cap has better feats.

i just realised if logan coudl lift 2 ton he woudl be abel to press lift 20.5 x his bodyweight

is logan stronger than cap , i seem to remeber him pinning cap down or vice versa??

Soooo.. just how strong is he? Ive heard some people say that he's stronger than Spider-man. That true??

Hell no. Wolverine can lift around about two tons maximum, Spider-Man can lift 15.

Was talking about Sabertooth.

I would say Wolverine and Cap are equal, there was one scene when Sabretooth is being held prisoner at the X-mansion. Wolverine can't sleep with Creed in the building, so he workouts and is lifting alot, and not even breaking a sweat or getting tired or sore from it cause of the healing factor. Makes you wonder how far he could push himself. This is also the same story Sabretooth broke through the force field. Wolverine #90 I believe.

Originally posted by EvilTyrant
I would say Wolverine and Cap are equal, there was one scene when Sabretooth is being held prisoner at the X-mansion. Wolverine can't sleep with Creed in the building, so he workouts and is lifting alot, and not even breaking a sweat or getting tired or sore from it cause of the healing factor. Makes you wonder how far he could push himself. This is also the same story Sabretooth broke through the force field. Wolverine #90 I believe.

i thought cap and logan wereequal too...but then i saw logan throw dumpster

i think logan without adamantium is on cap's level
with adamantium he can lift upto 2 tons

Originally posted by SamZED
Was talking about Sabertooth.

25 tons

Originally posted by ankur29
i thought cap and logan wereequal too...but then i saw logan throw dumpster

i think logan without adamantium is on cap's level
with adamantium he can lift upto 2 tons

25 tons

Originally posted by snoopdogg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=3723&pg=6

wolverine's not stronger than gorilla man 😮

What did you expect? Talking gorillas go toe to toe with Superman.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What did you expect? Talking gorillas go toe to toe with Superman.

you are talking about... grodd?
thats DC.. 😕

gorilla man possesses strength, endurance, and agility of a normal mountain gorilla

Originally posted by ankur29
you are talking about... grodd?
thats DC.. 😕

gorilla man possesses strength, endurance, and agility of a normal mountain gorilla

You didn't notice I was joking...?

I'm sure Wolverine was at least equal to Sabes when he was in his retarded animal form but now isn't quite up to that level now.