Victor Creed vs Lucian

^Exactly

That didn't make much sense to me...

In the first Underworld Viktor was treated like some sort of "boogieman" by Lucian that would be impossible to defeat without a Hybrid...Yet he beats and almost kills him in the new movie.

It is possible Viktor was much stronger with his greater age, but should the same not be for Lucian as well? Or is that rule different for Lycans?

He was probably frightened of him because he thought he killed him in the prequel, then he reappeared, stronger and apparently no worse for wear.

And all the immortal creatures get stronger with age and training.

Originally posted by NemeBro
That didn't make much sense to me...

In the first Underworld Viktor was treated like some sort of "boogieman" by Lucian that would be impossible to defeat without a Hybrid...Yet he beats and almost kills him in the new movie.

It is possible Viktor was much stronger with his greater age, but should the same not be for Lucian as well? Or is that rule different for Lycans?

Originally posted by NemeBro
That didn't make much sense to me...

In the first Underworld Viktor was treated like some sort of "boogieman" by Lucian that would be impossible to defeat without a Hybrid...Yet he beats and almost kills him in the new movie.

It is possible Viktor was much stronger with his greater age, but should the same not be for Lucian as well? Or is that rule different for Lycans?

Sabretooth should really be allowed the feats from Origins and X1, considering it's the same character and he doesn't improve mutant powers-wise with age.

I thought that was a given here.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I am pretty sure it works the same for Lycans.

It does, it's the reason Lucian and the giant-negro didn't go down from a few silver rounds, while the 'younger' werewolves did.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I thought that was a given here.

In that case, Sabretooth is likely stronger, as he swung a large tree like it was a baseball bat. He's also likely more durable.

Originally posted by omgchos
He didn't want the hybrid to beat victor. He actually didn't origionally plan on victor being awake. He only wanted the hybrid to unite them. He wanted the fighting to stop. Lucian only died because he knew he was pwnage and didn't even think that craven had a new gun with liquid silver. So it never entered his head that turning his back on the ****er would come back to bite him in the ass.

He probably thought he would do the same thing. Retreat, heal, come back stronger.

Na, it was just shitty writing from shitty written movies.

Yeah, more than likely.

Nah, not shitty written movies....just that some of the smaller brained individuals can't understand what's happening. 🙂

In any case, Lucian wanted a hybrid to both end the war and likely defeat Viktor.

Originally posted by NemeBro
But he then remarks that they could not defeat Viktor.

Ok ppl time to lay it down for you i'll start with super hero vs a lycan please dont make me laugh the lycan has no chance what so ever are you really considering the fact that Lucian has more experience in fighting then Creed??? are you out of your ****ing minds??? you tell me the last time Lucian fought a super hero, all super hero's do is fight other super hero's the experience by far goes to creed/Sabertooth. now as far as age goes you can through that right out the window Super Heros dont need age to become stronger they train for that which brings me to another point Xmen have a training facility that can train them for any situation nuff said about that. now lets take in the abilities of Sabertooth cause i think alot of you think of him as a wolf which you couldn't be more wrong he is alot more like a sabertooth tiger hence the name. now with that said anyone notice how he tracked, caught up with and stopped wolverine and rogue? they were driving for quite some time and he got infront of them to setup a road block in which he pull a frozen ****ing tree out of a frozen ground and put it in the damn road so i think his strength is more then enough. then ambushed wolverine which is what he does fyi damn near impossible to ambush wolverine unless your sabertooth. also he did that on foot. so your claim to Lucian being faster then Sabertooth is out the window. matter of fact only thing Lucian would find when dealing with Sabertooth is that he is no longer the hunter. one more Lucian isn't made of steel he is flesh and bone and if he did get ambushed by sabertooth he wouldn't have a chance i doubt he would even make it to the change.

Marcus is the original vampire and would be more powerful than Viktor. Did Lucian realize that...I honestly can't remember. I remember that Viktor spread the lie that he was the first vamp, but I'm not sure if Lucian knew the actual truth about that or not. It seems to me that he must have known that William and Marcus were brothers.

and no mutant powers to not increase with age thats just knowledge of fighting experience but they do change when something dramatic happens to them death, serious injury stuff like that there mutant powers change to do what ever is necessary to keep its host alive.

also marcus is not the original vampire he had a father in which he killed only cause the father couldn't kill his own son.

Originally posted by stadt101
also marcus is not the original vampire he had a father in which he killed only cause the father couldn't kill his own son.

Marcus' father was not a vamp..he was only immortal. William, being bitten by a wolf, was the first Lycan...Marcus, being bitten by a bat, was the first vamp.