Originally posted by Robtard
Yet they managed to pull wins, despite overwhelming odds against a much deadlier foe.You make a good point about the nuke, SST have nukes, by-by Stormtroopers.
The escape from the deserted base was a win? Johnny being stabbed in the leg was a win?
And dude, the nukes shouldnt be allowed here. It should be rifle against laser rifle. With nukes, SST could take on McClane and give him a good fight.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The escape from the deserted base was a win? Johnny being stabbed in the leg was a win?And dude, the nukes shouldnt be allowed here. It should be rifle against laser rifle. With nukes, SST could take on McClane and give him a good fight.
If you're going to take every single little side-plot that centered on a few guys as a loss on the SST part, then you should REALLY be chastising the Stormtroopers on their pathetic losses, namely to the Ewoks, furry midgets with stone-age tech.
In the big picture though, the SST conquered their enemy, the Bugs. ST got their ass handed to them by a much smaller and weaker force, the Rebels.
Fine. Soldier to soldier, the SST showed to be far better combatants and had far better aim, going by on-screen feats.
Originally posted by RobtardI'd say PIS, but I hate when someone uses that. I still think sheer numbers will overcome the SST.
If you're going to take every single little side-plot that centered on a few guys as a loss on the SST part, then you should REALLY be chastising the Stormtroopers on their pathetic losses, namely to the Ewoks, furry midgets with stone-age tech.In the big picture though, the SST conquered their enemy, the Bugs. ST got their ass handed to them by a much smaller and weaker force, the Rebels.
Fine. Soldier to soldier, the SST showed to be far better combatants and had far better aim, going by on-screen feats.
Also, if nukes are gonna be allowed, why not TIE's?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I'd say PIS, but I hate when someone uses that. I still think sheer numbers will overcome the SST.Also, if nukes are gonna be allowed, why not TIE's?
The Ewoks wasn't the only time the Stormtroopers showed complete incompetence, so you might as well say EP4-6 was PIS from being to end.
Because of the rules set forth by the thread starter. No vehicles.
Originally posted by RobtardWell, until the thread starter bans the nukes, no way no how a force of any size beats the SST. Its as one sided as it gets.
The Ewoks wasn't the only time the Stormtroopers showed complete incompetence, so you might as well say EP4-6 was PIS from being to end.Because of the rules set forth by the thread starter. No vehicles.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, until the thread starter bans the nukes, no way no how a force of any size beats the SST. Its as one sided as it gets.
Even without nukes, the SST are far superior soldiers, so unless the Stormtroopers have the numbers advantage in spades, they're losing.
Though really, to be objective, it should be an equal size army and keep the weapons comparable, rifle to rifle, gun to gun.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, until the thread starter bans the nukes, no way no how a force of any size beats the SST. Its as one sided as it gets.
if thats the case then the thread is over.
if you have to nerf one side in order for the other to stand a chance, whats the point in having the thread? thats like me making an incredible hulk vs. daredevil thread then preventing bruce banner from turning into the hulk because its lopsided.
just face the facts. the empire can not defeat the Star Ship Troopers in an infantry only battle because SST infantry has too many overly powerful weapons, and be done with it. this thread is to decide who would win in a fight with the weapons and training they have. its not designed to be a close match or even an entertaining one.
I know this will be overlooked but it's worth a try:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stormtrooper#Weaponry
All stormtroopers also had a cylindrical thermal detonator attached to the small of their back, on their torso armor. Like almost everything else on a typical Stormtrooper uniform, the detonator casing and buttons were not labeled, merely blank white in color. This was done deliberately in order to reduce the chance that an enemy would be able to arm the detonator if it were captured. Even a person who somehow knew the way to input the code would have to learn what it was. Each thermal detonator arming code was unique, known only to the soldier to whom the device was issued. The individual detonator code, along with designation codes and rank, were the only semblances of individuality that the troopers were allowed.
Around 130 ABY, stormtroopers were equipped with ARC-9965 blasters and are used alongside the E-11 blaster rifle.
Wait a second, the thermal detonators can be seen in the movies......Interesting.
Thermal detonators:
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah, I am merely saying keep the thread as is, but allow the detonators, which we can see on the ST armor.
Fine, so the ST have their therma-ldetonators that have a 100 meter kill area, while the SST have their small propelled tactical nukes, which have a kill area hundreds of times over. Don't see how that changes the ST having their asses spread, lubed and thoroughly reamed here.
Originally posted by RobtardYou have any idea how big 100 meters is? And that each Stormtrooper will have one?
Fine, so the ST have their thermaldetonators that have a 100 meter kill area, while the SST have their small propelled tactical nukes, which had a kill area many times over. Don't see how that changes the ST having their asses spread, lubed and thoroughly reamed here.
Another question: Each side is allowed to have all the weapons of war they displayed in the movies, yes? (Not TIE'S, ATAT's)