Originally posted by quanchi112
He is just a top tier. Superman blows him out of the water with feats and is much more formidable. Bor defeats either Superman or Darkseid.
Unfortunately, I agree with this statement. DS has been retconned and represented by avatars too many times to be considered skyfather. Herald, maybe. Bor wins 6/10 fights against Darkseid.
Originally posted by Kris BlazeYea, I do - and that'll probably be retconned in a year putting DS back into a whirlwind of retardedness. The character has been ruined by horrible writing/editing. He would lose to Bor, IMO.
Herald maybe?Do you realize that Darkseid CREATED Takion or Stayne...one of 'em.
Originally posted by Mattek
Yea, I do - and that'll probably be retconned in a year putting DS back into a whirlwind of retardedness. The character has been ruined by horrible writing/editing. He would lose to Bor, IMO.
I fail to see how your dislike of retconning has anything to do with Darkseid's placement as a herald....
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
There is no such definition.It's evne more ludicrous to assume that he can endow Stayne, who goes in at trans level, with his powers and remain a herald.
Darkseid is physically beneath or on par with Superman now. And Superman is high herald. The only saving grace Darkseid has going for him is the OE. I would place him at trans because of it, which is where he was at on KMC before too many posters got their panties in a bunch and complained.
Darkseid seems to be the better fighter and the OE or OS might end this in one shot. But I think Bor could deflect his finder beams with his halberd, and one-shot from Bor would end this match. So, I'll go with a 5/10 split.
It was never ever said that he did it by tapping into the source im not sure where you got that from and hes equals with highfather who def made takion without it so theres goes that,darkseid is back to being a real god as of FC all his loses are retconned into avatars which means that avatars that only posses a tiny fraction of his power throw down with heralds.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
It was never ever said that he did it by tapping into the source im not sure where you got that from and hes equals with highfather who def made takion without it so theres goes that,darkseid is back to being a real god as of FC all his loses are retconned into avatars which means that avatars that only posses a tiny fraction of his power throw down with heralds.
Takion of the Source! It even said 'Highfather created Takion out of The Source.' It wasn't as though Highfather's personal power created Takion. And when Darkseid creates Stayne, he notes that where there is light, there must be darkness. Takion was the embodiment of the light side of the Source, Stayne - his exact opposite - the dark side of it. Takion was created from the Source. So was Stayne. It wasn't as though Darkseid's personal power created her nor that she was imbued with a portion of Darkseid's own power, so its irrelevant to use that feat in order to claim that DS is skyfather level.
Also, OP states that this is Darkseid pre-FC.
We see darkseids own hand forming her to go fight takion,they created beings who could channel the source,the source is not cuttoff anywhere in this battle so again they created trans level beings and that falls in perfectly with what we know of their real power(aka mortally wounded darkseid breaking down all time space),its not like just having access to the source allows you to do these things.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
We see darkseids own hand forming her to go fight takion,they created beings who could channel the source,the source is not cuttoff anywhere in this battle so again they created trans level beings and that falls in perfectly with what we know of their real power(aka mortally wounded darkseid breaking down all time space).
It isn't a feat of Darkseid's power. And it has no relevance in a forum battle.