Originally posted by Rogue JediAll of the ones that were at the Temple not out on other missions across the galaxy. Not many big guns like those 3 or Plo Koon but Cin Drallig who is in his own right the lighsaber instructor at the Temple. And the rest of the big guns like Kit Fisto went with Mace to apprehend Sidious. So just say there are Jedi there. No big names, but they are Jedi nonetheless and roughly a thousand of them. But there are a hell of alot more troops from the 501st.
Wait, so are the rest of the Jedi masters there? All except for Obi, Yoda and Mace?
Originally posted by Rogue JediWhich is possible in every right........but remember he would be leaving one arm out of the fight with the rest of things. But yeah, Wolverine isn't taking Vader straight up, no way.
Vader would simply force choke Wolvie until Wolvie dies of asphyxiation.
I'm going to have to think this one over since the objective is to protect the Jedi Temple. If the Jedi die, regardless if any of the team is still alive, it's mission fail.
Concerning Wolverine, he maybe hard to kill, but he still feels pain and can go unconscious like anybody else. Which he has in the past. If Logan or Jimmy (whatever you want to call him) blacks out, Vader's army isn't stupid enough to leave him on the floor and assume he's out. Instead for someone like him, they'll most likely put him in some sort of energy restraint, pull him out of there and finish him off in the nearest base.
I'm a bit surprised the deranged Spider-man fans (this doesn't included Rob or Sadako) aren't saying Peter solos Vader's army before any of them realize what just hit them. Then Peter goes up to the Death Star and rapes Palpatine. This of course is right before he blows up the moon size space station with his punches. 💃
Originally posted by NemeBro
It has not been proven that Wolverine can survive without air. Why should we assume he can?I don't need to prove he cannot survive without air, you must prove he can.
all asphyxiation is is damage to organs as a result of lack of oxygen until they cont function anymore. suffocation specifically is your brain dying from lack of oxygen. as we've seen logan can function without the use of major organs including his brain as they will just heal eventually and he'll be brought back to life. whatever damage his brain takes from a lack of oxygen hell just heal from.
but the debate aside what makes you think logan can be killed from a lack of air when his comic version cant? what from the movies makes you think that?
Originally posted by WO PolaskiSo...This is all based on comic feats?
all asphyxiation is is damage to organs as a result of lack of oxygen until they cont function anymore. suffocation specifically is your brain dying from lack of oxygen. as we've seen logan can function without the use of major organs including his brain as they will just heal eventually and he'll be brought back to life. whatever damage his brain takes from a lack of oxygen hell just heal from.but the debate aside what makes you think logan can be killed from a lack of air when his comic version cant? what from the movies makes you think that?
Because unless he did in Origins, he CANNOT survive without major organs.
I don't need to prove that he can't live from a lack of air, you need to prove he can.
And...Prove he can live without his major bodily organs.
Comic feats do not count, comics=/=movies, as Juggernaut can tell you.
Wolverine would eventually die from lack of oxygen.
Almost all organisms use aerobic respiration. Metabolism of almost all pathways (including cell proliferation) requires energy generated by aerobic respiration. Without this, eventually all cells would cease to function and die off.
Anaerobic respiration is often also a viable form of metabolism for short periods of time. However, there will eventually be a build up of toxic waste such as CO2 that cannot escape the system. However, long before that, Logan's brain cells would have died, and eventually all his body's cells will become necrotic.
Nonetheless, all of this is still meaningless as Logan's mutant ability already defies the laws of physics, and it wouldn't be a stretch to defy another.
Having said that, unless there is proof that Logan can go without oxygen, there is no reason to assume he can. Asking to prove a negative is quite silly in this context.
Quick question but when has comic Wolverine been established to not need air? I've been to various comic sites and this is the first time I've ever heard about this. Last I checked every Wolverine needed a breathing tube when he was in a tank of water during the Weapon X experiments.
Btw if it was established in the comics Wolverine Origins, it should be ignored since it seems like Marvel has ignored that comic too.
Wolverine fanboys will tell you otherwise. Just check out the "can Wolverine die" thread somewhere over in the X-men forums.
There are numerous ways to kill him, including the sure-fire method of throwing him into the Sun, but even this is argued by the fanboys. So, the best thing to do is to ignore them.