im suprised the avengers aren't getting more love. im not saying they would win a majority but they could pull a few out. caps as skilled as anyone, thors still a viking warrior with way more experience than anyone else here, hawkeye like batman has the advantage of always fighting without powers and wonderman is still big and strong (marvel has him listed at 6'2 380lbs dont know if thats right though) and hes probaly trained with cap and hawkeye being part of the avengers
Originally posted by Raptor22
im suprised the avengers aren't getting more love. im not saying they would win a majority but they could pull a few out. caps as skilled as anyone, thors still a viking warrior with way more experience than anyone else here, hawkeye like batman has the advantage of always fighting without powers and wonderman is still big and strong (marvel has him listed at 6'2 380lbs dont know if thats right though) and hes probaly trained with cap and hawkeye being part of the avengers
Him training with Cap and Hawkeye is heresay. He would probably rely on his powers and strength being that he is a super power. People like Bats and Hawkeye and even Cyclops (although to a lesser degree than Bats) are used to fighting without super anything. Most of the X-men listed have a history of martial arts. Thor from the Avengers has thousands of years experience, but would have to adapt seeing as though all of his strength would be gone therefore, he couldn't bfr anyone with a single punch.
Originally posted by rotiart
team avengers. Cap is equal to batman... About... Unlss you takeout the super soldier serum which makes cap a 90 lb weakling
Without powers wolverine has neither the strngth or healing factor for his skeleton and did with minutes from itThor without powers wouldbe donald Blake which means he gets raped by everyone...
If cap gets ss avengers win. Hawkeye is the new cap.
Oherwise batman solis both teams by himself
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
W/o the syrum Cap would wither away and look like someone who hasn't eaten in 3 months. When he died the SSS reversed itself and he looked like he had starved to death. W/o the SSS Jean Grey could take him out.
Cap can take at least 5/10 from anyone else in this thread and pull a decent majority against pretty much anyone but Bats and Logan given the thread stipulations.
Originally posted by AstanaxBecause he is. He can run as fast or faster than the best olympic atheletes, same for lifting, jumping, swimming, etc, etc, etc. Even simpler things, like holding his breath, he does the maximum of human capacity.
I think anyone on the list could KO the others with a well placed hook to the jaw or a choke hold. Why does Wiki list Batman at the peak of human capability?
Originally posted by Astanax
Him training with Cap and Hawkeye is heresay. He would probably rely on his powers and strength being that he is a super power. People like Bats and Hawkeye and even Cyclops (although to a lesser degree than Bats) are used to fighting without super anything. Most of the X-men listed have a history of martial arts. Thor from the Avengers has thousands of years experience, but would have to adapt seeing as though all of his strength would be gone therefore, he couldn't bfr anyone with a single punch.
No, it's not.
Wonderman was actually shown as seeking Cap out for training during his solo series.
Originally posted by Silent Master
No, it's not.Wonderman was actually shown as seeking Cap out for training during his solo series.
You got me Silent Master. But you would have to train for years to perfect the art. The basics won't help you if you don't have the reaction and instinct to block or counter. Even takedowns wouldn't help if you don't know what to do from there on. He has the size and weight advantage though. That alone should help against the less experienced fighters. It would be useless against Batman or Wolverine or Cyclops though.