JLA vs avengers vs xmen h2h no powers/weapons

Started by Wild Shadow8 pages

well she shouldnt be able to take high heat vision to the face, she was never suppose to be that durable.

im suprised the avengers aren't getting more love. im not saying they would win a majority but they could pull a few out. caps as skilled as anyone, thors still a viking warrior with way more experience than anyone else here, hawkeye like batman has the advantage of always fighting without powers and wonderman is still big and strong (marvel has him listed at 6'2 380lbs dont know if thats right though) and hes probaly trained with cap and hawkeye being part of the avengers

Well I do give the Avengers 2nd place after the X guys and gals. Not a close 2nd tho.

I'm not much into DC, but there seem to be atleast 4 different comics starring or costarring Superman. Are they all intertwined with one another?

Originally posted by Raptor22
im suprised the avengers aren't getting more love. im not saying they would win a majority but they could pull a few out. caps as skilled as anyone, thors still a viking warrior with way more experience than anyone else here, hawkeye like batman has the advantage of always fighting without powers and wonderman is still big and strong (marvel has him listed at 6'2 380lbs dont know if thats right though) and hes probaly trained with cap and hawkeye being part of the avengers

Him training with Cap and Hawkeye is heresay. He would probably rely on his powers and strength being that he is a super power. People like Bats and Hawkeye and even Cyclops (although to a lesser degree than Bats) are used to fighting without super anything. Most of the X-men listed have a history of martial arts. Thor from the Avengers has thousands of years experience, but would have to adapt seeing as though all of his strength would be gone therefore, he couldn't bfr anyone with a single punch.

thor could still ko a handful of ppl with a power punch. 🙂

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
thor could still ko a handful of ppl with a power punch. 🙂

I think anyone on the list could KO the others with a well placed hook to the jaw or a choke hold. Why does Wiki list Batman at the peak of human capability?

because DC has a different description of what it means to be peak from marvel.

Originally posted by rotiart
team avengers. Cap is equal to batman... About... Unlss you takeout the super soldier serum which makes cap a 90 lb weakling
Without powers wolverine has neither the strngth or healing factor for his skeleton and did with minutes from it

Thor without powers wouldbe donald Blake which means he gets raped by everyone...

If cap gets ss avengers win. Hawkeye is the new cap.

Oherwise batman solis both teams by himself


Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
W/o the syrum Cap would wither away and look like someone who hasn't eaten in 3 months. When he died the SSS reversed itself and he looked like he had starved to death. W/o the SSS Jean Grey could take him out.

Not really. Cap's had the SSS completely filtered out of his bloodstream before and he didn't lose any weight to my knowledge. In his own body without the SSS he's beaten Crossbones in a 1 on 1 fight, and taken down the most of the Serpent Society. When his mind was transplanted into the aged body of the Red Skull(before Red Skull had a cloned body of Cap's) he took down a couple of the Avengers(I think it was Goliath and Yellowjacket).

Cap can take at least 5/10 from anyone else in this thread and pull a decent majority against pretty much anyone but Bats and Logan given the thread stipulations.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
because DC has a different description of what it means to be peak from marvel.

So the "peak" standards for DC are lower than Marvels

Originally posted by Astanax
So the "peak" standards for DC are lower than Marvels

most marvel fans say yes, some DC fanboys would say barely if any noticeable difference.

Originally posted by Astanax
I think anyone on the list could KO the others with a well placed hook to the jaw or a choke hold. Why does Wiki list Batman at the peak of human capability?
Because he is. He can run as fast or faster than the best olympic atheletes, same for lifting, jumping, swimming, etc, etc, etc. Even simpler things, like holding his breath, he does the maximum of human capacity.

see what i mean? 🙄

Originally posted by Juntai
Because he is. He can run as fast or faster than the best olympic atheletes, same for lifting, jumping, swimming, etc, etc, etc. Even simpler things, like holding his breath, he does the maximum of human capacity.

yeah that would be lower than Marvel's standards

There is no way possible that Batman can run faster or even as fast as the best Olympic athletes. I don't mean this to sound offensive or stereotypical, but the black dudes can run so much faster than the white dudes. It is what it is.

Originally posted by Astanax
Him training with Cap and Hawkeye is heresay. He would probably rely on his powers and strength being that he is a super power. People like Bats and Hawkeye and even Cyclops (although to a lesser degree than Bats) are used to fighting without super anything. Most of the X-men listed have a history of martial arts. Thor from the Avengers has thousands of years experience, but would have to adapt seeing as though all of his strength would be gone therefore, he couldn't bfr anyone with a single punch.

No, it's not.

Wonderman was actually shown as seeking Cap out for training during his solo series.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, it's not.

Wonderman was actually shown as seeking Cap out for training during his solo series.

You got me Silent Master. But you would have to train for years to perfect the art. The basics won't help you if you don't have the reaction and instinct to block or counter. Even takedowns wouldn't help if you don't know what to do from there on. He has the size and weight advantage though. That alone should help against the less experienced fighters. It would be useless against Batman or Wolverine or Cyclops though.

Even before that training, Simon was a fairly good fighter/brawler, he's even had the advantage in a fight w/Thor, that is until Thor used a charged hammer shot.

I'm not saying that he's going to be able to beat any of the major players like Cap/Bat/Wolverine, just that he isn't going down easily.

williams can easily be taken down by gambit, cyke and ronin

And while their triple teaming him, who on their teams are getting double teamed?