Mister Mxyzptlk runs Marvel Gauntlet

Started by Enyalus7 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
He went to damn near every universe (inc. Gen World, JLA One Million, Heaven, Kingdom Come, etc, etc.)

I know. But I don't think Super Friends was even a comic - it was a cartoon only, right? He still went there. Ditto for the Wonder Twins thing.

EDIT: Okay, apparently they were, but they were non-canon and on Earth-1A.

Originally posted by Enyalus
EDIT: Okay, apparently they were, but they were non-canon and on Earth-1A.
I don't see what that has to do with anything..

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't see what that has to do with anything..

I'm not sure how Mxy in an Elseworlds story (which is usually non-canon) can go to a non-canon universe and destroy that, and have the aforementioned story be canon.

Hypertime?

You explained why it was canon to me before, using the COIE argument. But the way it seems to me, is that since its an Elseworlds story, they can write whatever they want. I mean, there was no multiverse when that story was written. No infinite earths. Yet the writers made it so, anyway. And then going around destroying a bunch of things that are already non-canon...

I'm just not getting how it could be canon, unless its explained away via hypertime or something like it. And I know you know the most about Mxy, so would probably be able to explain that best.

Lemme also preface this by stating that even if we include WF as canon and what current Mxy can do (again, 10th Age of Magic probably changed the rules for 5th Dimension entities), I probably wouldn't give Mxy the win over Thanos. It'd be a stalemate IMO, because destroying the universe (or omniverse) wouldn't be enough to kill Thanos. He's also omniscient and could trick Mxy into saying his name backwards, or possibly mindrape him into doing so (that seems unlikely, I admit to that...)

Originally posted by Enyalus
I'm not sure how Mxy in an Elseworlds story (which is usually non-canon) can go to a non-canon universe and destroy that, and have the aforementioned story be canon.

Hypertime?

You explained why it was canon to me before, using the COIE argument. But the way it seems to me, is that since its an Elseworlds story, they can write whatever they want. I mean, there was no multiverse when that story was written. No infinite earths. Yet the writers made it so, anyway. And then going around destroying a bunch of things that are already non-canon...

I'm just not getting how it could be canon, unless its explained away via hypertime or something like it. And I know you know the most about Mxy, so would probably be able to explain that best.

WF being an Elseworlds story doesn't automatically make it non-canon (as there are several canonical Elseworlds tales.) But Mxy visiting the COIE-verse tells me, without a doubt, that WF was canon (there being only one COIE, and such.)

Many people don't know this, but there was a multiverse after COIE, and before 52 (it was referenced a couple times throughout a few different comics.) So a multiverse existing during WF makes sense. But Hypertime is also a potential answer.

Mxy didn't destroy a "bunch" of non-canon universes. In fact, almost every universe we saw being destroyed, was canon. Also, the ease in which Mxy vaporized universes in WF does coincide (as do many other things) with how easily Emperor Joker was able to do the same. Meaning, the feats Mxy displayed in WF weren't out of his powerset. At all.

Furthermore, Mxy is ALWAYS an excuse for DC writers to do whatever they want, such as:
own Spectre
retcon characters on a whim
destroy universes with an ACME bomb
canonically cross over into other companies
Talk to DC staff directly
etc, etc

(ALL of the above feats are indisputably canon, btw.)

So again, nothing in WF was out of Mxy's insane powerset.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Lemme also preface this by stating that even if we include WF as canon and what current Mxy can do (again, 10th Age of Magic probably changed the rules for 5th Dimension entities), I probably wouldn't give Mxy the win over Thanos. It'd be a stalemate IMO, because destroying the universe (or omniverse) wouldn't be enough to kill Thanos. He's also omniscient and could trick Mxy into saying his name backwards, or possibly mindrape him into doing so (that seems unlikely, I admit to that...)
There's no evidence that Mxy's powers have been mucked with due to the 10th age of magic.

Mindrape? Since it's never happened to Mxy, I wouldn't say it's likely.

The name backwards thing? That's a stip Mxy places on himself. A stip he can choose not to abide by (as he's shown before.)

Alright man, thanks for the knowledge drop.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Alright man, thanks for the knowledge drop.
It was mostly bullshit. Pay it no mind. crackers

Originally posted by Galan007
It was mostly bullshit. Pay it no mind. crackers

👆 That's why I didn't bother getting into an argument. biscuits

Thank you. vin

Originally posted by Galan007
Thank you. vin

Shall we start an FC Darkseid vs. Mxy thread for amusement?

I'll make it 😛

Originally posted by Enyalus
Shall we start an FC Darkseid vs. Mxy thread for amusement?
I don't find that amusing. uhuh

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't find that amusing. uhuh

Interesting that Darkseid was the only one who wasn't killed when Mxy destroyed Apokalips/4th World.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Interesting that Darkseid was the only one who wasn't killed when Mxy destroyed Apokalips/4th World.
Mxy kept Darky alive so he could give him the ALE. DUH!

Originally posted by Galan007
Mxy kept Darky alive so he could give him the ALE. DUH!

Ah yes, obviously.

Srsly though, the EJ arc showed us that even Darkseid is little more than a puppet compared to Mxy.

Originally posted by Galan007
Srsly though, the EJ arc showed us that even Darkseid is little more than a puppet compared to Mxy.

...I agree.

I mean, I like both, but Mxy's most awesomer.

Originally posted by Enyalus
...I agree.

I mean, I like both, but Mxy's most awesomer.

+1 cool point. 👆

um mxy destroyd "all" of DCU?

so the 6D planes too? or the homeworld of the 7D imps? the 8D octopi? the 10th dimension? all of it? ^__^

Stops at 7.

Clears it