Originally posted by Draco69
If Kitty Pryde was rendering herself intangible for the majority of the a battle and not making a move against her opponent, would that be considered inviable? No. She's not fighting her opponent at all. She's SUPPOSED to though.As said before, Flash can go without sleep and sustenance as long as he taps in the Speed Force to make up for it.
This is Flash, not Kitty Pryde fighting. Running to the grocery store, sleeping, and taking a nap is not high on Flash's to do list when Juggernaut is running amok.
How exactly is Flash going to stop the Juggernaut? Or in fact do anything to the Juggernaut?
Originally posted by Evangel94
And if Flash ever got close to Juggernaut, he would be stopped down by Juggernaut Forcefield slowing him and his momentum would be stopped.
Which is just a poor imitation of the Flash's kinetic energy steal. The hammer did go back to Thor after that.
Juggernaut has been taken out through indirect means. Flash can drill a hole somewhere on the ground, and have Juggs fall into it (hell....he's an idiot). Win for Flash 😬
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Juggernaut has been taken out through indirect means. Flash can drill a hole somewhere on the ground, and have Juggs fall into it (hell....he's an idiot). Win for Flash 😬
Sticking Juggernaut in a hole, isn't a win. It's bfr.
And it doesn't remove the root problem: Juggernaut is still there.
What can Flash do directly to the Juggernaut?
Originally posted by Evangel94
This is Flash, not Kitty Pryde fighting.
Which is another poor retort because you really can't argue the difference between the two....
Kitty isn't fighting. Flash isn't fighting. What's the difference. I guess Kitty using her powers or IW becoming invisible so her opponent can't find her is inviable in your book since they're not directly fighting their opponents.
Originally posted by Evangel94
Running to the grocery store, sleeping, and taking a nap is not high on Flash's to do list when Juggernaut is running amok.
Why shouldn't it be. Flash has ALL the time in the world. A second would seem like an hour to him. Flash is tired. He takes a nap. He wakes up and he still sees Juggs in the exact same position he was a picosecond ago. He does this regularly during his battles in Key City.
Again, he can just tap in the Speed Force to cover that.
Originally posted by Evangel94
How exactly is Flash going to stop the Juggernaut? Or in fact do anything to the Juggernaut?
Dump him the SpeedForce. Teleport him into the Anti-Matter Universe. All that require no touching of any kind.
A better question is: How the hell is Juggernaut gonna defeat the Flash. YOU'RE the one who stated Juggs can win.
I on the other hand stated it's either a stalemate or BFR.
Or as Blairwind stated, using MMA rules: Juggs can't do sh** to Flash. Flash can do alot (some that won't damage him) to Juggs. So by default, Flash wins.
Originally posted by Evangel94
Sticking Juggernaut in a hole, isn't a win. It's bfr.And it doesn't remove the root problem: Juggernaut is still there.
What can Flash do [b]directly
to the Juggernaut? [/B]
Directly. Nothing. But neither can Juggs.
What can Juggs do directly to the Flash? And please let it be something that will actually work....
........punch? Limited to the speed of the attack, and the length of an arm. 😐
Juggernaut has no enhanced speed. Tell me if someone punches you, and you happen to be naturally quicker do you think you can dodge it?
Forcefield. He is not "directly" doing anything though. Also what is the forcefield actually going to do? The hammer is shown to fly back with enough momentum to carry Juggs when he hangs on it. What is it going to do to Flash when he can continuelly give himself more momentum while it "may" be sucked (since he only used that Forcefield once that I know of)
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Juggernaut can punch flash, and it will hurt flash.
He can't. I CAN use a special mirror to deflect a laserbeam that is fired at any time that is not known to me (which moves at the speed of light) BUT I don't have the ability or rather reflexes to do so.
Let's say a laser gun fires a laser beam at a target 50 feet away from it. I have a special mirror capable of deflecting the laser. I am to deflect the laser BEFORE it hits the target. It will be fired at ANY given time that is not within my knowledge. It could fire in two minutes or two years. Who know? I am standing two feet way from the range of the laser's fire.
CAN I do it? Yes. I am physically able to deflect the laser with the mirror. Is it possible at ALL to do so? No absolutely not.
And unfortunately for Cain, Flash is NOT a laserbeam. He's a living, thinking, reacting laserbeam that will see Juggs punches as if it were still life...
Originally posted by Evangel94
Forcefield.
Juggernaut won't need his forcefield during this fight. It is not constantly on. That post wasn't really serious anyway.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
........punch? Limited to the speed of the attack, and the length of an arm. 😐Juggernaut has no enhanced speed. Tell me if someone punches you, and you happen to be naturally quicker do you think you can dodge it?
This is what is funny about my post. You asked what he could do, and yes, Juggernaut could cause flash physical pain by punching him. Flash could also dodge the punch.
Originally posted by Evangel94
Punch him really really hard, or stick out his arm and have flash run into it. It's been done before.
Oh yeah, that'll work....
🙄
In KMC Forums, (since you've been here oh so long and stuff...) you know that Flash is gonna be going all out with no PIS nor CIS.
Juggs has a better chance of winning the lottery several million times in a row than hitting the Flash.
Flash will see the punch coming at him at the pace of Asian driver during rush hour.
Flash will practice his limbo dance several times using Juggs arm as a pole.
Also it is plain stupid to assume that Juggs will actually SEE the Flash to actually know where to hit him.....
Flash will be invisible. Juggs won't see him.
I'm wondering something about this fight.
If Flash tried to steal the kinetic energy from Juggs, would it work? I mean, their powers somewhat cancel out...
At first I thought no, because of the previous statement. Then figured the Speedforce was considerably more powerful than Cyttorak, so has the potential to overcome his magic.
Any thoughts?