The Unstoppable Juggernaut vs. The Flash · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

WTF are you talking about? The Speedforce is what gives him his powers in the first place. Without it he's just a normal human.

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Yet he has to TAP into the speedforce! When Flash reaches lightspeed or more he is in the speedforce.

Quit acting like he will start in the speedforce and run after Juggs because he wouldn't.

Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

All Flash has to do to activate the Speedforce is think. In fact it activates automatically, when someone fired a bullet at him it activated right as the bullet touched the back of his neck and he ran out of the way.

SnazzySmurph tu quoqumber

Even if you were right (ermmnone), what stops Flash from running off til he hits lightspeed, then running and hitting Juggs?

It's not like Juggernaut could tag him in the meantime...

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Originally posted by Endless Mike
All Flash has to do to activate the Speedforce is think.

Nope. He has to reach lightspeed or more to tap into it.

Even if you were right (), what stops Flash from running off til he hits lightspeed, then running and hitting Juggs?

Juggs Forcefield!

Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

You obviously have no idea how the Flash's powers even work.

He has to reach lightspeed to enter the Speedforce, not to use it. Every time he does something at super speed, he's using the speedforce.

SnazzySmurph tu quoqumber

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Nope. He has to reach lightspeed or more to tap into it.
Juggs Forcefield!

Tap, as in enter it himself. In order to use is, all he does is use super speed...

Can Juggs forcefield tag Flash then?

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I already said that, that is what I mean when I say tap I mean ENTER the speedforce. It takes the flash time to reach lightspeed.

Juggs wins.

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Originally posted by Phenomenol
I already said that, that is what I mean when I say tap I mean ENTER the speedforce. It takes the flash time to reach lightspeed.
Juggs wins.

He can still reach lightspeed faster then Juggs can think.

How does Juggernaut win?

SnazzySmurph tu quoqumber

Flash travels back in time, to before Cain had the gem, and puts his fist through Marko's head.

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Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
He can still reach lightspeed faster then Juggs can think.
How does Juggernaut win?

No he can't Flash takes 8 seconds alone to reach the speed of sound and he would need momentum.

Juggs Forcefield would slow Flash down anyway, just like it did Thor's Hammer.

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Originally posted by Phenomenol
No he can't Flash takes 8 seconds alone to reach the speed of sound and he would need momentum.
Juggs Forcefield would slow Flash down anyway, just like it did Thor's Hammer.

That's relatively old, iirc.

You haven't answered my question.

Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

That was when he was injured. Stop using out of context examples.

Flash can reach lightspeed in under a second these days.

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Who says that flash has to run AT juggernaut to enter the speed force?

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No, Flash always takes time to reach lightspeed. He always needed momentum and it never changed.

@SnazySmurf: Flash isn't in the marvel universe, Good luck trying to go back into a timeline outside his area code.

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Originally posted by Phenomenol
No, Flash always takes time to reach lightspeed. He always needed momentum and it never changed.
@SnazySmurf: Flash isn't in the marvel universe, Good luck trying to go back into a timeline outside his area code.

According to forum rules, characters can use all their powers no matter where they are. Flash could spend years until he figured out when and how Cain became Juggernaut, but with his speed it might take a day or two.

Then Cain dies, end match.

Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

Flash went beyond lightspeed to react to the spaceship attacking Earth right away in a fraction of a second (the scan was just posted in the Superman respect thread, because it had a line about Superman racing a photon to its target).

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Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
According to forum rules, characters can use all their powers no matter where they are. Flash could spend years until he figured out when and how Cain became Juggernaut, but with his speed it might take a day or two.
Then Cain dies, end match.

Yeah because that is what the Flash does he goes back in time to kill people. 🙄

Flash would need time to even do that and you think Flash would immediatley go back in time? Before then he would be KO'd before he gets an idea like that.

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Originally posted by Phenomenol
Yeah because that is what the Flash does he goes back in time to kill people. 🙄
Flash would need time to even do that and you think Flash would immediatley go back in time? Before then he would be KO'd before he gets an idea like that.

Forum rules-full capacity. Flash would have no inhibitions about it, and would be able to evade Juggernaut all day without trying until he did think of it.

Game. Set. Match.

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Originally posted by Endless Mike
Flash went beyond lightspeed to react to the spaceship attacking Earth right away in a fraction of a second (the scan was just posted in the Superman respect thread, because it had a line about Superman racing a photon to its target).

Read it, nothing suggesting Flash could reach lightspeed instantly.