The Unstoppable Juggernaut vs. The Flash

How am I "overexaggerating the feat"?

The ship travelled across the solar system in the blink of an eye, Superman was too slow to react (and he is faster than light), but Flash reacted instantly.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Mike seriously, you always do this...Your claims and the scans you post NEVER match up. Their just comic book/anime characters relax and take what is there. Don't overexaggerate the feat.

[QUOTE=MadMel]flash wins
there in no way that juggs could react fast enough to even think about using his force field before flash gets to light speed and uses the speed force to completely trash juggs

Flash takes to long to reach lightspeed and Juggs can bring his forcefield up at will. [/QUOTE]

Speed of the Flash >>>> Speed of will.

Hm, I have a question. Lets say Flash did reach Cain before he could summon his force field and was able to hit Cain without him having the conservational luxuries of his force field. What would happen?

This would all come down to whether or not the Flash could actually affect Juggernaut's unique power set, the Flash's powers work on the physical plane while Juggernauts work on the metaphysical one, I really doubt that the Flash could stop Cain. It is more likely that when the Flash is running about trying all that he can to stop Juggs, that Cain could simply knock him off his feet by hitting the ground hard enough to create an earthquake so intense that it might even be able to KO Flash, I have yet to see how Flash can stop the unstoppable.

Originally posted by Nike
Hm, I have a question. Lets say Flash did reach Cain before he could summon his force field and was able to hit Cain without him having the conservational luxuries of his force field. What would happen?

What would happen?

The Flash wouldn't 'hit him.'

More options are available.

Originally posted by Soljer
What would happen?

The Flash wouldn't 'hit him.'

More options are available.

What other options are available? Before you spout the infamous"he steals his kinetic energy" argument, Cain's powers are the power of an Elder god. It's already been shown that Flash is unable to tamper with the power of gods. Other than that I see no argument for Flash.

Originally posted by Nike
What other options are available? Before you spout the infamous"he steals his kinetic energy" argument, Cain's powers are the power of an Elder god. It's already been shown that Flash is unable to tamper with the power of gods. Other than that I see no argument for Flash.

You are telling half truths, but it hardly matters.

Tell me something - what happened to Superboy Prime?

The Flash certainly didn't try hitting him.

Originally posted by Nike
What other options are available? Before you spout the infamous"he steals his kinetic energy" argument, Cain's powers are the power of an Elder god. It's already been shown that Flash is unable to tamper with the power of gods. Other than that I see no argument for Flash.

Kick, headbutt, knee him in the crotch.

Or more to the point he can drop him in a pit.

Originally posted by Soljer
You are telling half truths, but it hardly matters.

Tell me something - what happened to Superboy Prime?

The Flash certainly didn't try hitting him.

So tell all.

He was thrown in the speed force against his will. Difference here is there was three Flashes at the time Superboy Prime was thrown in the speed force, at this time there is only one. Oh yeah, and Juggernaut has the plot device going for him that when he beings moving forward, he cant be stopped. I don't recall Superboy Prime having that luxury. Also, throwing Superboy Prime in the speed force was not an instant process, in that time Cain could easily switch his force filed on.

Originally posted by Soljer
You are telling half truths, but it hardly matters.

Tell me something - what happened to Superboy Prime?

The Flash certainly didn't try hitting him.

THat was three Flashes. Also, they could lift SBP.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
THat was three Flashes. Also, they could lift SBP.

Indeed. Dramatic, wasn't it?

It'd be nice if the Flash ever showed the ability to enter the speed force WITHOUT needing two buddies or to drag the victim.

Oh, wait.

Also, as far as the 'it takes too long' argument goes.

Uhhh...no?

doped.

Originally posted by Soljer
Indeed. Dramatic, wasn't it?

It'd be nice if the Flash ever showed the ability to enter the speed force WITHOUT needing two buddies or to drag the victim.

Oh, wait.

Also, as far as the 'it takes too long' argument goes.

Uhhh...no?

doped.

And my argument?

Originally posted by Nike
And my argument?

What was your argument?

Three flashes with a moving victim, and it taking awhile?

Yeah, it was addressed. The Flash speedforce dumps Cain.

Originally posted by Soljer
What was your argument?

Three flashes with a moving victim, and it taking awhile?

Yeah, it was addressed. The Flash speedforce dumps Cain.

Originally posted by Soljer
What was your argument?

Three flashes with a moving victim, and it taking awhile?

Yeah, it was addressed. The Flash speedforce dumps Cain.

So your counter argument to mine was the poor logic above?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
How am I "overexaggerating the feat"?

The ship travelled across the solar system in the blink of an eye, Superman was too slow to react (and he is faster than light), [B]but Flash reacted instantly. [/B]

Scan doesn't match your statements.

Juggs wins.

Originally posted by Nike
So your counter argument to mine was the poor logic above?

Which poor logic was that? You were implying that it'd take multiple flashes, they'd have to be moving, and it'd take a while.

None are true. Speedforce dump.

Juggs has a forcefiled and Flash isn't gonna straight up try to dump him in the speedforce.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Juggs has a forcefiled and Flash isn't gonna straight up try to dump him in the speedforce.

The Flash can do it long before Juggs can even think about putting up his forcefield.

No Flash has to enter the speedforce and that takes him time and he needs momentum. Juggs can bring his forcefield up at WILL.