Originally posted by Kris Blaze
"Where it's due"
He's far more versatile. And his energy blasts are more powerful.
He sucks. But he wins here.
When has Vulcan shown that he controls the entire electromagnetic spectrum? Metallic manipulation abilities? What does that mean?
When has he shown telepathic or telekinetic powers?
When has he ever turned off, a metahuman's powers post Genesis? His never shown to do it on his own.
Also, that magic is just energy thing was stupid.
What do you mean he controls spiritual energy?
Damn, a lot of questions.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When has Vulcan shown that he controls the entire electromagnetic spectrum? Metallic manipulation abilities? What does that mean?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When has he shown telepathic or telekinetic powers?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When has he ever turned off, a metahuman's powers post Genesis? His never shown to do it on his own.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What do you mean he controls spiritual energy?
He cuts off the Elder's power, which was being channeled to him by his entire race. I would assume it was done spiritually. This was during RAFOTSE I think.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Deadly Genesis. Metallic manipulation abilities as in...he controls metal. Kind of like Magneto. But obviously to a lesser extent. Also in Genesis.
Originally posted by Enyalus
See above.
Just because one can control metal doesn't mean one has complete control over the electromagnetic spectrum.
That aside, all those things you mentioned happened during Deadly Genesis. He never once showed those abilities post Deadly Genesis. There is a reason for that. Can you guess what it is?
It might be a combination of his team mates powers, or him simply using Darwin's abilities with a greater degree of control etc. but post, Deadly Genesis, he has never showed telekinetic, telepathic, or metallic manipulation from what I recall.
He never showed those abilities before he got his team mates powers and after he lost his team mates powers.
Originally posted by Enyalus
That was on his own. None of his teammates had that ability. It was Vulcan.
Show me him doing it once before, Genesis, and after Genesis.
Vulcan has never shown that ability on his own. Like I said, it might be a combination of their powers with his, or him using them to new levels, but he has never done so without having his team mates powers.
Originally posted by Enyalus
I didn't know what else to call it.He cuts off the Elder's power, which was being channeled to him by his entire race. I would assume it was done spiritually. This was during RAFOTSE I think.
It could have been done physically.
You're right it did happen during the "Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire".
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Just because one can control metal doesn't mean one has complete control over the electromagnetic spectrum.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It might be a combination of his team mates powers, or him simply using Darwin's abilities with a greater degree of control etc. but post, Deadly Genesis, he has never showed telekinetic, telepathic, or metallic manipulation from what I recall.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He never showed those abilities before he got his team mates powers and after he lost his team mates powers.Show me him doing it once before, Genesis, and after Genesis.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It could have been done physically.You're right it did happen during the "Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire".
Vulcan's shown the ability to manipulate more kinds of energy than Dr. Light has. And has a higher energy output. He wins.
Originally posted by Enyalus I'm pretty sure he says it during Deadly Genesis. And if he doesn't, the whole, "Magic's just energy. And I manipulate all energy" thing should do it.
I don't recall that, and I'm to lazy to look for it. Do you have a scan or the issue number?
That was not only stupid, but the energy statement can just be hyperbole. As we have seen, Vulcan has clear limits to the amount of energy and the type of energy he can manipulate.
Also, if he was so adept at controlling the electromagnetic spectrum, Polaris wouldn't have done what she did to him.
He fancies himself a god.
Originally posted by Enyalus He was manipulating the electrical impulses in people's brains to simulate telepathy. Kind of like what DC's Triumph was doing in order to mind rape his teammates.
You said telepathy, but I get what you're saying. He should potentially be capable of doing this on his own.
Originally posted by Enyalus lol....Vulcan didn't exist as a character before Genesis.
Bad phrasing on my part. I meant before he got his team mates powers in Genesis, and after he lost his team mates powers in Genesis and so on.
Originally posted by Enyalus All I know is that the Elder was powered by the telepathic or spiritual backing of his entire race. Vulcan was able to see where the energy was coming from, and cut him off from it.
It doesn't have to be telepathic or spiritual. Just saying.....
Originally posted by Enyalus Vulcan's shown the ability to manipulate more kinds of energy than Dr. Light has. And has a higher energy output. He wins.
He is more versatile, but I don't know about being more powerful.
Although I do believe Vulcan wins this fight, depending on the Dr. Light.