Toxin vs. Daken

Started by Trackz22 pages

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wolverine: Killing Made Simple one-shot.

Again, it wouldn't be able to heal its host.

ok just wondering thanks

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Toxin does have a HF...

He got stabbed in the arm by a foot long blade and was fine by the next panel or so.

because a character can heal, doesn't mea they have a healing factor, there are different type of healing and regeneration. a healing factor specifically refers to the mutant ability to rapidly regenerate

Originally posted by Trackz
because a character can heal, doesn't mea they have a healing factor, there are different type of healing and regeneration. a healing factor specifically refers to the mutant ability to rapidly regenerate

No it doesn't, a healing factor refers to beyond human healing abilities.

Hulk has been said to have a healing factor- is he a mutant?

The healing may occur in different ways, but it's still a healing factor.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
No it doesn't, a healing factor refers to beyond human healing abilities.

Hulk has been said to have a healing factor- is he a mutant?

The healing may occur in different ways, but it's still a healing factor.

wolveirne has made the differentiation before, he noticed zombies who were healing exceptionally fast, weren't regenerating, they didnt have healing factors, he noted blade had no healing factor as well.

and hulk is a result of a mutation due to gamma radiation

There are the regenerative healing factors and the non-regenerative ones.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Lightsaber can cut through adamantium? Pics or it didn't happen 😛
bull to the shit on that one. Lightsabers ave notoriously failed against super dense metals in the SW EU some metals have caused them to keep shorting out on contact.

Weren't Mandalorian armors lightsaber-resistant?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
There are the regenerative healing factors and the non-regenerative ones.
healing factors are regenerative abilities though, thats why wolverine hinted at blade not having one since he can't regenerate

Originally posted by Trackz
healing factors are regenerative abilities though, thats why wolverine hinted at blade not having one since he can't regenerate

He just asked him if he had a healing factor and scratched him.

A healing factor is a term used to describe the ability of some characters in fiction to recover from bodily injuries or disease at a superhuman rate. ~~wiki

There are stronger and weaker healing factors.

Take a look at this:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6025/thpowersabilities.jpg
Credit goes to ankur.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He just asked him if he had a healing factor and scratched him.

There are stronger and weaker healing factors.

Take a look at this:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6025/thpowersabilities.jpg
Credit goes to ankur.

where does it specify the difference between healing factors? I've never heard of anyone but a mutant being identified with healing factor

Originally posted by Trackz
where does it specify the difference between healing factors? I've never heard of anyone but a mutant being identified with healing factor

Long time ago it was believed that Logan couldn't regenerate missing limbs or smashed brain, but his power was still called a healing factor. It's a loose term. You want a specific one - there are listed in that scan in my previous post; enhanced regenerative, superhuman regenerative, etc.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4003/shehulk16015ob9.jpg
Credit goes to jinzin.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Long time ago it was believed that Logan couldn't regenerate missing limbs or smashed brain, but his power was still called a healing factor. It's a loose term. You want a specific one - there are listed in that scan in my previous post; enhanced regenerative, superhuman regenerative, etc.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4003/shehulk16015ob9.jpg
Credit goes to jinzin.

I guess it must change from writer to writer, it must be a very loose term, but toxins regenerative abilities are very different from wolverines

Originally posted by Trackz

and hulk is a result of a mutation due to gamma radiation


hulk is still not a nmutant thouhg

hes a gamma mutate, they have there own catagory since there are a bunch

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Long time ago it was believed that Logan couldn't regenerate missing limbs or smashed brain, but his power was still called a healing factor. It's a loose term. You want a specific one - there are listed in that scan in my previous post; enhanced regenerative, superhuman regenerative, etc.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4003/shehulk16015ob9.jpg
Credit goes to jinzin.

Both Toxin and Wolverine's physcial anatomies are too different. Their HFs would not work the same way.

Originally posted by jalek moye
hulk is still not a nmutant thouhg

hes a gamma mutate, they have there own catagory since there are a bunch

yeah but the healing is still a result of a mutation, not that it matters, my basic point is that toxin and wolverines healing abilities are too different to assume the murarmasa blade would work on toxin identically to the way it worked on wolverine, even then it's not like wolverine couldn't heal from wounds inflicted by the muramasa blade, it just took him longer

Alright, alright, alright.....

Venom's healing factor is incredibly impressive at times. There's no real evidence on just how it works; all we know is that he has one.

That said, it isn't a cure-all... It didn't do jack to prevent the development of Cancer in Eddie's system and did just about as little trying to combat it.
And.. quite frankly, we've seen Symbiote users get outright murdered being stabbed or diced with a sonic knife, and stay dead after the knife was removed which leads me to the conclusion that the symbiote's healing limitations are more abundant than those of say, Wolverine's.

Now the Muramasa may not be a sonic device, but it is made up of plasmic energy potent enough to completely shut down the effects of Wolverine's healing factor, and Sabretooths (of which both ARE a cure-all) AND possibly (going by statements) strong enough to rend through Colossus' skin.

Knives and swords have always had an effect on Venom, both Eddie, and Gargon... Especially Gargon. Even just having the tip of swordsman's sword hit him in the chest put Gargon on hold for a minute. Swordsman himself was able to battle Gargon for a prolonged fight, any moment's pause would give Daken all the advantage he'd need to end the fight. I seriously doubt even with Venom's healing ability a head shot is going to go unnoticed and that's if Daken wasn't just slicing limbs completely off, add in the possible effects of the Muramasa and he's pretty much done for. Frankly Toxin hasn't shown the same craftiness, intelligence, and overall ability of his predecessor in combat, and if Daken's pheramones did work on Toxin there's pretty much next to nothing he can do to defend himself.

Hell even without the pheramones and the Muramasa, we've seen Daken put Gargon on the ground momentarily with a single throat strike which is again all he needs, his pheramones aren't even necessary as he's already shown the ability to play mindgames with people, Toxin's chances of walking away the victor here are slim.

We're using the showing against Sabretooth?

Where his adamantium disappeared?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
We're using the showing against Sabretooth?
Where his adamantium disappeared?

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His Adamantium has been gone since 2005. 😕

It disappeared circa M-day. 😐

that throat strike nonsense was garbage imo, even though Gargan is a tool...the Venom symbiote is not. That scene should was written terribly

Originally posted by Sin I AM
that throat strike nonsense was garbage imo, even though Gargan is a tool...the Venom symbiote is not. That scene should was written terribly

😕

Venom/Brock was effected by nerve strikes from DD before.