Toxin vs. Daken

Started by Mindset22 pages

i think he had a hang nail too, and he was having a bad hair day

Originally posted by jinzin
quite frankly, we've seen Symbiote users get outright murdered being stabbed or diced with a sonic knife, and stay dead after the knife was removed which leads me to the conclusion that the symbiote's healing limitations are more abundant than those of say, Wolverine's.

Now, lets be fair. The hosts for those particular symbiotes may have been killed, but that could be due in part of the symbiotes own pre-mature nature.

Originally posted by jinzin
Knives and swords have always had an effect on Venom, both Eddie, and Gargon... Especially Gargon. Even just having the tip of swordsman's sword hit him in the chest put Gargon on hold for a minute. Swordsman himself was able to battle Gargon for a prolonged fight, any moment's pause would give Daken all the advantage he'd need to end the fight. I seriously doubt even with Venom's healing ability a head shot is going to go unnoticed and that's if Daken wasn't just slicing limbs completely off, add in the possible effects of the Muramasa and he's pretty much done for. Frankly Toxin hasn't shown the same craftiness, intelligence, and overall ability of his predecessor in combat, and if Daken's pheramones did work on Toxin there's pretty much next to nothing he can do to defend himself.

Hell even without the pheramones and the Muramasa, we've seen Daken put Gargon on the ground momentarily with a single throat strike which is again all he needs, his pheramones aren't even necessary as he's already shown the ability to play mindgames with people, Toxin's chances of walking away the victor here are slim.

Like you said, we haven't seen the overall abilities of Toxin as of yet. We're not even certain if Toxin has even inherited the sound and heat weaknesses from Venom and Carnage.

seems to me like this Daken character is pretty broken with splicing and protective sheaths bit. Poor character design

what?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
yea who was haft dead and had just escaped being tortured, and if not mistaken he was holding back and could barly stand.

*sigh* Why is Wolverine always half dead? Y'know if it happened it happened....but I dunno.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
*sigh* Why is Wolverine always half dead? Y'know if it happened it happened....but I dunno.

he was being tortured for hours if not days. That why people need to stop stating things like this person beat that person with out stating the context.

Wolverine could barly stand he was in terriable shape and if I am not mistaken he could not pop his claws because he was pretending to be patch and wolverine was suposes to be dead.

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all symbiotes >>>>>> greater than Wolverine, Daken, Sabertooth, X23 etc. Cover up the face with symbiote smother them, then put most of a tendril into the nose and pull out the brain or scramble it.

cis would prevent them from using such a strategy and Daken has claws with the ability to completely stop a person healing factor

Originally posted by Trackz
because a character can heal, doesn't mea they have a healing factor, there are different type of healing and regeneration. a healing factor specifically refers to the mutant ability to rapidly regenerate

tumbleweed 😕

Originally posted by Battlehammer
cis would prevent them from using such a strategy and Daken has claws with the ability to completely stop a person healing factor

All HF's or just Wolverines?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
cis would prevent them from using such a strategy and Daken has claws with the ability to completely stop a person healing factor

Whatever dude.....Venom smothers people all the time. Get off Logan's nut sack. Toxin could do it too.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Whatever dude.....Venom smothers people all the time. Get off Logan's nut sack. Toxin could do it too.

it has nothing to do with liking wolverine were talking about daken here who has abilities wolverine does not.

smothering you was not what I was talking about and just because venom does something does not mean toxin will.

Daken has the ability to stop other healing factors, which could be deadly for a symbiot and he has the ability to alter ones perception of were he is.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
All HF's or just Wolverines?

all. It worked on sabre-tooth and even worked on a robot lol

Originally posted by Battlehammer
it has nothing to do with liking wolverine were talking about daken here who has abilities wolverine does not.

smothering you was not what I was talking about and just because venom does something does not mean toxin will.

Daken has the ability to stop other healing factors, which could be deadly for a symbiot and he has the ability to alter ones perception of were he is.

It dosen't mean Toxin won't either now does it? 🙄

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
It dosen't mean Toxin won't either now does it? 🙄

true, but I never had a problem with that, I did have a problem with the whole eating the brain crap.

have you been listening though? how does smothering help when his opponent can stabb him and he cant heal it?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
true, but I never had a problem with that, I did have a problem with the whole eating the brain crap.

have you been listening though? how does smothering help when his opponent can stabb him and he cant heal it?

The Symboites have a long reach(webs, Tendrils).....if they snag him...they can wrap him up just long enough to take him out.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
The Symboites have a long reach(webs, Tendrils).....if they snag him...they can wrap him up just long enough to take him out.

but they wouldent. It not common knolwedge that daken has claws that stop healing factor, nor is it common knolwedge he has pheramones. Toxin would have no idea and would go melee were he get stabbed by claws which he cant heal from

Originally posted by Battlehammer
all. It worked on sabre-tooth and even worked on a robot lol

What are you talking about? Shiva can't auto-repair like Nimrod... can it? At least not from cutting in half.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
but they wouldent. It not common knolwedge that daken has claws that stop healing factor, nor is it common knolwedge he has pheramones. Toxin would have no idea and would go melee were he get stabbed by claws which he cant heal from

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