Mutant Levels

Started by KingD194 pages

No, Logan is Beta buddy. And many X-Men are beta or lower, with Alpha's being rarer than the other levels.

An Alpha would not live in constant pain because of his mutation, suffer memory loss and turn beastial without adamantium halting its progress.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No he an alpha, the term was created and used most frequently in AOA which he was stated numerous times as an alpha mutant. He is an alpha, he never in any time line been classified as anything put Alpha. Actaully almost all the x-men are alpha save one or two

Not according to the latest definition of the respective levels.
Does it really matter to you whether Logan is classified as alpha or beta? I mean, it doesn't really downgrade Wolverine, since alpha, beta and gamma level have all powerful abilities. They are just differentiated by the existence of no, minor or major drawbacks, and many of the X-Men, including Logan, do have some drawbacks to their mutation.

And how is Cyclops an Alpha? I'd say having to wear glasses 24/7 is a fairly major drawback.

Because he doesn't have to wear the glasses, when he got hurt during the crash, he put mental blocks in place, they can be removed at any time, and if they were, and his true potential was realized, he would be legendary. The reason he's Alpha is because if the plane didn't crash, then he would be more powerful. When someone else used his power, he easily put out 2 gigawatts with no effort.

Originally posted by hugekent
And how is Cyclops an Alpha? I'd say having to wear glasses 24/7 is a fairly major drawback.

I short: The drawback is not part of Scott's mutation, just as having been quadriplegic was a drawback for Charles, but hasn't been part of his mutation, and is thus not taken into account determining the mutant level.

What would Apocalypse be? The highest level is Omega, but he says something like 'im as far above mutants as they are above humans' and he seems to be streets ahead of most og the other omega levelers

He's actually Alpha, it's just his immortality that makes him so far above, and his celestial tech.

Logan been directly state through out aoa as an alpha not sure how your wiki list has precedences over on pannel evidences, I also find it funny you all say I am wrong when i am going by stated facts..

Yeah, he might have been Alpha in AoA, but in 616, he's Beta.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Logan been directly state through out aoa as an alpha not sure how your wiki list has precedences over on pannel evidences, I also find it funny you all say I am wrong when i am going by stated facts..
Going on the definitions, he's quite clearly a Beta, no matter what was stated on panel.

Concidering how beastial Logan was getting without the adamantium, it could be argued that he is Gamma even.

Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah, he might have been Alpha in AoA, but in 616, he's Beta.

But ther eno evidences that stated he ever been beta ;evel in 616 and a0a version in the same as 616 logan asside from the bondage proccess of the adamatium.

Originally posted by hugekent
Going on the definitions, he's quite clearly a Beta, no matter what was stated on panel.

yea becaauses wiki definitions are >> comic evidences 🙄

Originally posted by Mshinu
Concidering how beastial Logan was getting without the adamantium, it could be argued that he is Gamma even.

His beastial side is not from his mutation it from being a lupin, nor is it even a down side.

Considering he's a feral sub species of human, that alone is enough to make him beta.

Originally posted by KingD19
Considering he's a feral sub species of human, that alone is enough to make him beta.

how? he not human he compeltely different species he evolved from canines. How does comign from a different species make you a lower classification?

also comic statements say he alpha, only thing that says he not is wiki which is far from cannon or even a good sources or anything closes to primary source.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
how? he not human he compeltely different species he evolved from canines. How does comign from a different species make you a lower classification, you know how dumb that sounds?

where was it stated that he isn't a type of human at all?

Originally posted by jalek moye
where was it stated that he isn't a type of human at all?

It was revealed he a lupin mutant, he comes from the lupin race which is seperate from the human race.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
It was revealed he a lupin mutant, he comes from the lupin race which is seperate from the human race.

when?

and are you sure he isn't atleast part human? werent his parents and brother human?

and why the hell does marvel consider him a mutant if hes not even human