And Thanos gave the whole Marvel Universe problems three times, because of outside power, not its own.
Not extreme will-power? Or genius intellect and prepping? He saw a way to accomplish what he wanted and devised a way to attain it.
Thanos also went toe-toe with Odin. He's routinely whooped on Silver Surfer. (who is greater than Superman imho) Thanos is no pushover 🙂.
He needs more Respect. One of the greatest villains of all time.
"Not extreme will-power? Or genius intellect and prepping? He saw a way to accomplish what he wanted and devised a way to attain it."
Thats not what i said. I said without outside power (i.e the IG for example) he wouldnt give - a universe - problems with its - own- powerlevel.
"Thanos also went toe-toe with Odin. He's routinely whooped on Silver Surfer. (who is greater than Superman imho) Thanos is no pushover ."
What being better than Superman means to his class of power and above? Heralds in the comic hierarchy are of the weakest. And he didnt went toe to toe against Odin. That would be if Odin would had give his best. He didnt.
"He needs more Respect. One of the greatest villains of all time"
He has the respect he deserves but your overrating him a bit. As good as he is, without plot devices he doesnt cause troubles in a universal scale.
"Superman defeats Darkseid defeats Surfer... in one shot"
Darkseid nowadays gets beaten by every high top hero.
He has the respect he deserves but your overrating him a bit. As good as he is, without plot devices he doesnt cause troubles in a universa scale.
Without plot devices, Batman hardly defeats anyone. 🙂
I don't think i'm overrating him.
It takes a lot to wield the IG. Thanos's (niece?) couldn't handle it.
In The Hunger, Darkseid beat Surfer in one move and left him down most of the rest of the comic.
That never happend. It's not in any continuity. Biased writing. DC and Marvel have to make comprimises they normally wouldn't when writing a crossover. It's bad evidence. The forum rules call crossovers bad evidence. You use them superflously 😛. If Superman can stomp on Darkseid, Silver Surfer can.
Originally posted by Sentry
Read the rest of it. He shot surfer from the back. If it was up & up, he could have countered with a blast of power cosmic. Did you see what Surfer did to Orion?
In that same issue, this was a weak Darkseid who just had the sh*t blasted out of him by Galactus. Surfer had just been restored by Galactus. Sounds like a fair comparison to me.