Despero vs Thanos

"Without plot devices, Batman hardly defeats anyone."

Your getting my point then, this isent Thanos with a plot device. Its Thanos on its own power.

"It takes a lot to wield the IG. Thanos's (niece?) couldn't handle it."

Thats why Thanos stated when Nebula was figthing the abstracts that even a fool with the IG would be invencible?

In true she did the exact same thing Thanos did. Fought the cosmics and abstracts all at once, defeated them and imprisioned them. And the she lost the IG like Thanos did.

Orion,

Do you consider Thanos a universe scale problem though?

And what power level do you place him on?

? Your asking what power level Thanos is on its own?

I place him under the gods/beings that are second to Skyfathers. Like Hela, Hades, Poseidon etc.

He is above top tier and herald level by far tho.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
In that same issue, this was a weak Darkseid who just had the sh*t blasted out of him by Galactus. Surfer had just been restored by Galactus. Sounds like a fair comparison to me.

A weak Galactus is still at least, AT LEAST ten times more powerful than Darkseid. That was supposed to happen. Darkseid has no chance against Galactus. Darkseid from any era will punked.

Sounds about right.

Originally posted by Sentry
A weak Galactus is still at least, AT LEAST ten times more powerful than Darkseid. That was supposed to happen. Darkseid has no chance against Galactus. Darkseid from any era will punked.

Exactly, Galactus bested Darkseid easily with a blast that send him flying quite a distance....

DS then came BACK from that, and took down Surfer which Galac had just renewed.

Originally posted by olympian
? Your asking what power level Thanos is on its own?

I place him under the gods/beings that are second to Skyfathers. Like Hela, Hades, Poseidon etc.

He is above top tier and herald level by far tho.

Originally posted by Juntai
Didnt somone post a comic of Thanos saying he COULDNT survive a Nuke level attack, and then Thor smacking him halfway across the galaxy like a punk?

This one?

Originally posted by olympian
He has the respect he deserves but your overrating him a bit. As good as he is, without plot devices he doesnt cause troubles in a universal scale.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
This one?

Originally posted by K3VIL

The Marvel Heroes while they were planning to stop Magus from achieving the Infinity Gauntlet were considered from Thanos inferior, not even a disturbance he sayed he will assault Magus with the aid of Drax not even considering Cap and company

How bout this one?

Getting hit by the Mjolnir will hurt damn near anyone.

"Come on olympian, I agree with you most times, but Thanos is considered a threat even when he's not in possess of cosmic artifacts"

Thats not what im saying. Of course he is a threat. But not on a -universal- scale.

This was started by the fact that Thanos almost defeated the entire Marvel Universe three times. Those wer with plot devices.

See where im heading? On his -own- powerlevel he wouldnt be the treat he was in those three moments.

Does that make Superman look like a punk? No. Thanos just got knocked back in that picture. Did he make a sound? No.

Superman made a pain scream.

Superman: GH-UHH!!!

Even Namor has taken those shots better than Superman. 😉

Originally posted by Sentry
How bout this one?

Getting hit by the Mjolnir will hurt damn near anyone.

Funny how you swear by that pic..yet NEVER show this one..

Originally posted by olympian
"Come on olympian, I agree with you most times, but Thanos is considered a threat even when he's not in possess of cosmic artifacts"

Thats not what im saying. Of course he is a threat. But not on a -universal- scale.

This was started by the fact that Thanos almost defeated the entire Marvel Universe three times. Those wer with plot devices.

See where im heading? On his -own- powerlevel he wouldnt be the treat he was in those three moments.

How bout this moment?

Originally posted by olympian
Even Namor has taken those shots better than Superman. 😉

Or this one:

"This was started by the fact that Thanos almost defeated the entire Marvel Universe three times. Those wer with plot devices."

What's this almost stuff? Thanos did defeat the entire Marvel Universe. What stopped him? Himself. It was either Warlock or Surfer that told Thanos that he kept subconsciously stopping himself for some reason.

Deep down, he knew leaving the IG on a throne was stupid etc...