Originally posted by Da PittmanThats impossible. Can you imagine the cost for health insurance? And how would the government tax them? Thats the biggest thing, you know, the government wouldnt be able to collect taxes on them.
Its their body, there just using it in a different way then the rest of the work force. It should be regulated just like any other labor job.
Originally posted by Robtard
Which passages of your KJV?
God abhors unjust weights and balances.
Micah 6:10-12 (KJV)
10: Are there yet the treasures of wickedness in the house of the wicked, and the scant measure that is abominable ?
11: Shall I count them pure with the wicked balances, and with the bag of deceitful weights?
12: For the rich men thereof are full of violence, and the inhabitants thereof have spoken lies, and their tongue is deceitful in their mouth.
Tax collectors were widely regarded as thieves and robbers.
Because they were and they still are today. 😉
Legalize prostitution via a federal registery with healthcare and collective bargaining rights for both prostitutes and adult movie stars including regular physicals. Create industry standards of safety. Pay for this by creating a high tax on services and products which will also create a more efficient, market based social stigma. Run public service commercials on the importance of developing meaningful relationships and the ultimate, hollow emptiness of casual sex. Strictly enforce anti-pimping laws.
Originally posted by Rogue JediYes you can. Would the government collect all the taxes, I doubt that it would be the same as with day labor and tips but you then can offer things as an intensive. What would be the difference in health insurance to another job that deals with death on a daily basis, besides it would be up to that person to pay for their own health insurance or the employer.
Thats impossible. Can you imagine the cost for health insurance? And how would the government tax them? Thats the biggest thing, you know, the government wouldnt be able to collect taxes on them.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Thats impossible. Can you imagine the cost for health insurance? And how would the government tax them? Thats the biggest thing, you know, the government wouldnt be able to collect taxes on them.
Easy; you legalise it only in licensed premises that have to keep books. Sure, its exploitable, but then so is gambling. It's still better than the underground business.
I'll remind people that in many places, it is solicitation or procuring that is illegal, not exchanging money for sex (which is a very difficult thing to prove anyway).
Originally posted by The Scribe
God abhors unjust weights and balances.Micah 6:10-12 (KJV)
10: Are there yet the treasures of wickedness in the house of the wicked, and the scant measure that is abominable ?
11: Shall I count them pure with the wicked balances, and with the bag of deceitful weights?
12: For the rich men thereof are full of violence, and the inhabitants thereof have spoken lies, and their tongue is deceitful in their mouth.Tax collectors were widely regarded as thieves and robbers.
Because they were and they still are today. 😉
First of all, you'd have to prove the "unjust" portion of it, because there are parts of the tax system you use, eg police protection.
Second, if you're going to dig into the Old Testament as proof against doing something or not doing something, then you mustn't pick and choose which part to follow, but take the Old Testament in it's entirety to heart. So that includes father's stoning their insolent daughters, men not shaving, owning slaves from foreign lands, eating Kosher etc. etc. etc.
Originally posted by The ScribeIt is not the tax collector that is the sinner but the government that imposes the taxes. 😉
God abhors unjust weights and balances.Micah 6:10-12 (KJV)
10: Are there yet the treasures of wickedness in the house of the wicked, and the scant measure that is abominable ?
11: Shall I count them pure with the wicked balances, and with the bag of deceitful weights?
12: For the rich men thereof are full of violence, and the inhabitants thereof have spoken lies, and their tongue is deceitful in their mouth.Tax collectors were widely regarded as thieves and robbers.
Because they were and they still are today. 😉
So all of those Christians in power are all sinners, the tax collector is just doing the job that they were hired for obeying the laws of the land.
No, it should be banned outright.
The reason being most women are forced by into it, weather it be because of drugs, threat of violence or terrible financial circumstances.
Maybe there are women (and men🙂) who actually enjoy doing the job, but for the sake of the ones who are forced into it it should be banned.
Men (or women) should learn to control themselves in this "everything is for sale" world.
Originally posted by Bicnarok
No, it should be banned outright.The reason being most women are forced by into it, weather it be because of drugs, threat of violence or terrible financial circumstances.
Maybe there are women (and men🙂) who actually enjoy doing the job, but for the sake of the ones who are forced into it it should be banned.
Men (or women) should learn to control themselves in this "everything is for sale" world.
I understand your point, but isn't it just unrealistic and non-pragmatic to ban prostitution?
wouldn't anti-poverty, adequate child support care and drug rehab programs do more to tackle prostitution than a ban?
Like I hear you, to hear some people talk about it, hookers are all liberated women who are choosing to leave their CEO paying jobs because they love to be sodomized by 3 men who have sex offender status. There is something to be said for freedom, but man, like prostitutes are not the people to be looking to as bastions of "libertarian" philosophy.
My thoughts: it should be legal, but if we had a society that treated women with respect, none of them would feel the need to do it. Unless they really wanted to, I guess.
Originally posted by BicnarokWell since it is illegal in almost every state how is that working? Why would a ban make it any different? What is the difference from a person being forced to work for a job because a lack of education, financial hardship or what ever? They are working for a job that they don't want but they need money just like everyone else.
No, it should be banned outright.The reason being most women are forced by into it, weather it be because of drugs, threat of violence or terrible financial circumstances.
Maybe there are women (and men🙂) who actually enjoy doing the job, but for the sake of the ones who are forced into it it should be banned.
Men (or women) should learn to control themselves in this "everything is for sale" world.
As inimalist said this is a symptom of larger problem such as drugs and the economy. If a person is desperate for money they will still get it however they need to even if there is a ban or not so that doesn't really effect anything as it does now. At least if it is legal we could help these people do this in a safer way by medical check-up, registering and yes taxes. Right now most slip through the cracks, die of violence, spread STD's or simply go missing.
Much of what you state negatively about prostituion is the result of underground prostituion, not a legalised business.
You are also living in dreamland if you think it will go away with some notion of 'respect for women'. The desire for sex is nothing to do with lack of respect. In a business, it's a service on offer that some want.
Also with legalisation, you can screen ot unwanted clients.
None of this is to say that legalised brothels will be cathedrals of sense and morality. As I say, it's like gambling. But it sure as hell is better than the underground alternatives.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
You are also living in dreamland if you think it will go away with some notion of 'respect for women'. The desire for sex is nothing to do with lack of respect. In a business, it's a service on offer that some want.
indeed, it is more about women respecting themselves enough not to participate unless they wanted to
clearly the SES issues are far more important though
Originally posted by inimalistbut if we had a society that treated women with respect, none of them would feel the need to do it. Unless they really wanted to, I guess.
I don't agree. It's like one hooker in a Nevada Brothel once told me when I asked her why she was a hooker if she didn't like doing it (we had been talking at the bar and she told me she hated being a hooker)...
"I can't live on fifteen dollars an hour", meaning she did it for the income.
Lots of people choose to do jobs they don't like (hell, I'm one of them) because it enables them to enjoy the rest of their life. A hooker by choice is no different.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
[B]It is not the tax collector that is the sinner but the government that imposes the taxes. 😉So all of those Christians in power are all sinners, the tax collector is just doing the job that they were hired for obeying the laws of the land.
As long as the laws of the land do not go against the laws of God.
So, being a tax-gatherer for the government is against the law of God and therefore it is a sin.
The people of this Government are not Christians they don't even know the definition.
The people in the government are there to be a representative to the people and follow the Supreme laws of the land which are: The Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
They are not doing that any more.
I predict another war in this country in the not too distant future.
Originally posted by inimalist
indeed, it is more about women respecting themselves enough not to participate unless they wanted toclearly the SES issues are far more important though
Though that assumes a rather old fashioned view of sex, and selling ones body as lack of respect, which I find silly, though it seems prevalent in society.
But if we go make belief on changes in society why not that, too, it might go hand in hand.
Originally posted by The ScribeMaybe you should read your own article as to what a tax collector was at that time, MAJOR difference to an IRS agent today.
As long as the laws of the land do not go against the laws of God.So, being a tax-gatherer for the government is against the law of God and therefore it is a sin.
The people of this Government are not Christians they don't even know the definition.
The people in the government are there to be a representative to the people and follow the Supreme laws of the land which are: The Constitution and the Bill of Rights.They are not doing that any more.
I predict another war in this country in the not too distant future.
Being an IRS agent is not a sin against God, being a corrupt one is. Read this again "Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and 'sinners'?" notice that it separates the tax collectors from the sinners, why not just say sinners? The reason is that not all tax collectors where corrupt, while it was a rareity it was not unheard of, they were hated people for how they collected the taxes in their local districts and would many times overcharge so that they could become richer.