Should prostituion be legalised?

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Maybe you should read your own article as to what a tax collector was at that time, MAJOR difference to an IRS agent today.

Being an IRS agent is not a sin against God, being a corrupt one is. Read this again "Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and 'sinners'?" notice that it separates the tax collectors from the sinners, why not just say sinners? The reason is that not all tax collectors where corrupt, while it was a rareity it was not unheard of, they were hated people for how they collected the taxes in their local districts and would many times overcharge so that they could become richer.

That was the Pharisee's saying that. Of course, they wouldn't see the tax collector's as sinners. 🙄

"Tax collectors were widely regarded as thieves and robbers."

Levi was one he repented and quit.

The IRS today is just like they were then. They are all thieves.

Originally posted by The Scribe
That was the Pharisee's saying that. Of course, they wouldn't see the tax collector's as sinners. 🙄

"Tax collectors were widely regarded as thieves and robbers."

Levi was one he repented and quit.

The IRS today is just like they were then. They are all thieves.

However, Jesus said give unto Cesar what is Cesar's.

Originally posted by The Scribe
That was the Pharisee's saying that. Of course, they wouldn't see the tax collector's as sinners. 🙄

"Tax collectors were widely regarded as thieves and robbers."

Levi was one he repented and quit.

The IRS today is just like they were then. They are all thieves.

So widely means all now? I must have not gotten the memo, so if you were not a thief or robber as a tax collector you would still be a sinner even if you were fair?

It is nice to see that you consider the IRS and all of its employees to be all thieves, so the poor guy working in the mail room is stealing from everyone. The IRS doesn't kill people, the IRS doesn't burn down their homes, the IRS doesn't take people as slaves for payment. Do you partake in ANY government programs or services? Do you drive on the roads, enjoy police protection? If so then you are a sinner for condoning taxation and guilty as much as the mail room guy at the IRS.

So if the Pharisee's wouldn't say that tax collectors are sinners then why would he ask Jesus why are you sitting with sinners? If they would think that the tax collectors are not sinners why would it be such a shock to them that he is sitting with them?

Sounds like you have a lot of pride/despair/wrath/vanity but those are all sins. 😉

Originally posted by Da Pittman
[B]So widely means all now?

It means most people in that day saw them as the thieves they were.
But, today people don't know the true laws.
Most taxes are illegal including the Federal Reserve.
"To coin money."

It is nice to see that you consider the IRS and all of its employees to be all thieves, so the poor guy working in the mail room is stealing from everyone.

Everyone working for them is yes.

Just like the courts would convict people that work for the mob and so on, or a getaway driver. All he did was drive the vehicle. 😉

So if the Pharisee's wouldn't say that tax collectors are sinners then why would he ask Jesus why are you sitting with sinners? If they would think that the tax collectors are not sinners why would it be such a shock to them that he is sitting with them?

The Pharisees must not have liked them either.
I'd say they didn't like tax collectors.
Seems you can't connect things.

The Pharisees wanted to discredited Jesus any way they could.
So, they would use anything and everything they could think of.

If you want to harp on about your ridiculous concept of 'true law', do so in the Religion section. Keep this thread on topic, please.

OK, moved

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=511741

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
I don't agree. It's like one hooker in a Nevada Brothel once told me when I asked her why she was a hooker if she didn't like doing it (we had been talking at the bar and she told me she hated being a hooker)...
"I can't live on fifteen dollars an hour", meaning she did it for the income.

Lots of people choose to do jobs they don't like (hell, I'm one of them) because it enables them to enjoy the rest of their life. A hooker by choice is no different.

would you be happy if your daughter was a hooker?

would you feel as though she had reached her potential and was maximizing herself as a human being?

or, would you think, regardless of her reasons, that she was, to say the least, underachieving?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Though that assumes a rather old fashioned view of sex, and selling ones body as lack of respect, which I find silly, though it seems prevalent in society.

But if we go make belief on changes in society why not that, too, it might go hand in hand.

much like other jobs, there is some innate "usury" assumed in prostitution.

This also assumes a rather egalitarian view of the prostitution industry. Lets have a society that values women's contribution to society more than their bodies, and see if the willingness of women to use it as a means of "wage earning" diminishes.

the respect argument makes more sense with regards to porn, and like I said to Ush, clearly most of the issues around modern prostitution are socio-economic/cultural rather than issues of female respect.

Originally posted by inimalist
would you be happy if your daughter was a hooker?

would you feel as though she had reached her potential and was maximizing herself as a human being?

or, would you think, regardless of her reasons, that she was, to say the least, underachieving?

I wish I had a dollar for every time someone asked this (about the daughter, sister, mother, etc) during this discussion.

Of course I wouldn't be happy, but if she made the decision of her own free choice and it wasn't at the coercion of and for the support of a pimp I wouldn't interfere nor would I disown her.

As for the maximizing herself as a human being...you lost me there.

Underachieving? There are lots of jobs/lifestyle choices you can say that about, and very few pay as well as renting one's body.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Underachieving? There are lots of jobs/lifestyle choices you can say that about

i agree with this. id even go so far as to say that the majority of jobs out there dont "maximize" our potential as a human being.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Of course I wouldn't be happy, but if she made the decision of her own free choice and it wasn't at the coercion of and for the support of a pimp I wouldn't interfere nor would I disown her.

But do you honestly believe people become hookers by choosing it over reasonable options?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But do you honestly believe people become hookers by choosing it over reasonable options?

Some certainly do, not all hookers are drug dependents who suck a dick for $50.00 and then immediately go blow it on crack.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But do you honestly believe people become hookers by choosing it over reasonable options?

A lot of female students resorted to prostitution to pay their way through university. I know one personally that did just that.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/student/news/article665019.ece

Originally posted by jaden101
A lot of female students resorted to prostitution to pay their way through university. I know one personally that did just that.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/student/news/article665019.ece

Well if they couldn't find another way to pay for it I wouldn't count that as unreasonable.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
I wish I had a dollar for every time someone asked this (about the daughter, sister, mother, etc) during this discussion.

Of course I wouldn't be happy, but if she made the decision of her own free choice and it wasn't at the coercion of and for the support of a pimp I wouldn't interfere nor would I disown her.

As for the maximizing herself as a human being...you lost me there.

Underachieving? There are lots of jobs/lifestyle choices you can say that about, and very few pay as well as renting one's body.

I do see your point and being a high caliber lady of the night is certainly good money. REALLY good money.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But do you honestly believe people become hookers by choosing it over reasonable options?

Let's see, you can make hunderds or even thousands of dollars A DAY as a hooker, or you can make $8.00 an hour at Wal Mart. Yes, I do believe some women become hookers by choice.

yes it really should be

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But do you honestly believe people become hookers by choosing it over reasonable options?

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Let's see, you can make hunderds or even thousands of dollars A DAY as a hooker, or you can make $8.00 an hour at Wal Mart. Yes, I do believe some women become hookers by choice.

If pornography is legal, then prostitution should be legal as well.