Is tax a sin?

Originally posted by Da Pittman
And what the hell do you mean by "society as a whole", you said that society is a lie. You don't even know what you are talking about much less making scene. So you are saying that people don't need people as a whole, or are you saying that the world would be a better place if only "pure" Christan like you were on it. You would like to get rid of the other 5,999,999,999 people in the world?

The people who deny Christ.
We don't need them.

2 Corinthians 6:14-18 (KJV)
14: Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15: And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16: And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17: Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18: And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
What do you think it means?

well, in context, jesus was probably keeping his eyes on the roman guards and pharisees and his mouth to the jews. i think this happened straight after his mad flipping-of-tables in the synagogue.

this rule probably helps to underline the 'no man may serve two masters,' with jesus saying that you don't have to be persecuted for your religion because you insist on focusing your material life straight there - although that life is meant for some [monks, nuns, hermits in little cottages who know about herbal medicine.]

but with the direct question 'is it a sin'? i think to seriously think about that you have to believe the bible is written by god, not man. which i personally am not crazy about. i don't take the bible word by word literally. i used to, that's why i'm able to remember so much.

so... long awkward answer to short question. i'm not very good at putting philosophy into written word most of the time. it might improve if i were to decide to smoke a joint or two before i came on to type.

but then, we can't all live in amsterdam. 💃

Originally posted by The Scribe
The people who deny Christ.
We don't need them.

2 Corinthians 6:14-18 (KJV)
14: Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15: And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16: And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17: Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18: And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

I can spout off scripture as well that will disagree with you, why because the Bible is so FULL of contradictions but you only want to pick and choose. 😆

Originally posted by Da Pittman
How so very Christan of you that everyone is not equal in the eyes of the lord and that all men can not be saved.

Not everyone will be saved. God only loves His followers.

Matthew 7:21 (KJV)
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Malachi 1:1-3 (KJV)
1: The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.
2: I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
3: And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Romans 9:13-16 (KJV)
13: As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14: What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15: For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16: So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

because the Bible is so FULL of contradictions

You're incorrect and again you know nothing of which you speak.

Also, you have just ousted yourself as a Bible corrector.

Romans 1:28 (KJV)
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Ok, Scribe, you are simply prosetlysiing and trolling. Cut it out. Either make some effort to rationally respond to arguments or do not post at all.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Ok, Scribe, you are simply prosetlysiing and trolling. Cut it out. Either make some effort to rationally respond to arguments or do not post at all.

Originally posted by The Scribe
Not everyone will be saved. God only loves His followers.

Matthew 7:21 (KJV)
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Malachi 1:1-3 (KJV)
1: The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.
2: I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
3: And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Romans 9:13-16 (KJV)
13: As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14: What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15: For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16: So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

You're incorrect and again you know nothing of which you speak.

Also, you have just ousted yourself as a Bible corrector.

Romans 1:28 (KJV)
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”

Again you are wrong, the Bible is full of contradictions but until you will actually respond to my post it is not worth it for me to continue.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
You are incorrect again, God does love everyone and it is you that do not know what you are talking about. I'm am quite well versed in many religions and with Christianity since I was raised as one but then again you think that most of the people that are Christian are not Christan at all so that is a mute point.

I already gave you the verses where it actually shows that God does hate sin and the sinner. Why would He put people into hell if He loved them?

Just because you were raised something doesn't mean much. It might if you actually continued to be what you were raised.

I'm not a "troll." That's an absurd assumption.
My opinion is different, that is all.
Also, this is the "religious" forum. I added Bible verses.
Which goes with the theme of this forum.

I could make a lost of obvious trolls and flagrant rule violations.

Yes you are trolling, as for your verses I have shown you that the Bible is in contradition and that other verses says that he loves all man. The reason why God would love someone and send him to Hell is that he is not love incarnate as the Bible describes and is an evil prick. How can God be love and hate at the same time? Do you not know what you are saying?

because their is no hell to begin with for god to send you their in the first place.

Ignoring the troll, I believe that taxing is a sin. It's immoral to coerce people, and the burden of proof is on the people who support taxation.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Yes you are trolling, as for your verses I have shown you that the Bible is in contradition and that other verses says that he loves all man. The reason why God would love someone and send him to Hell is that he is not love incarnate as the Bible describes and is an evil prick. How can God be love and hate at the same time? Do you not know what you are saying?

No, I wasn't. I already sent a PM to another MOD addressing this issue and your continued attacks in this forum.

Courtesy
Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully ... without insult and personal attack.

I say the Bible doesn't have contradictions, you seem to think there are. We will never see eye to eye on this subject.

You can choice to ignore me, but I will not tolerate being singled out by you just because you want to bash Christians and the Bible.

God is more than one emotion and is beyond human comprehension.
People like to give God limitations and that is blasphemous.

If people want to follow Him they have to understand He makes the rules.

"Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully."

You're consistently messing up the respectfully and thoughtfully part. Which does make you a troll. Well, that or some kind of moron but if I called you that it might be construed as rude.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
"Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully."

You're consistently messing up the respectfully and thoughtfully part. Which does make you a troll. Well, that or some kind of moron but if I called you that it might be construed as rude.

No, from the first sentence of this thread I was singled out and called names for no reason, and it wasn't just jokingly.

I will wait for a response to my PM.

Funny how "trolls" call someone else a troll just because he has a different opinion from the majority.

Tax can either be a sin or not, depending on how it is gathered and used.
When you use taxes to take advantage of other people or for your personal gain, then yes it is a sin.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Funny how "trolls" call someone else a troll just because he has a different opinion from the majority.

If they deliberately express their opinion in a way that is intended to stir up trouble it's trolling plain and simple.

Anyway, taxes are not noted as a sin in any religion I can think of.

Originally posted by The Scribe
No, I wasn't. I already sent a PM to another MOD addressing this issue and your continued attacks in this forum.

Courtesy
Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully ... without insult and personal attack.

I say the Bible doesn't have contradictions, you seem to think there are. We will never see eye to eye on this subject.

You can choice to ignore me, but I will not tolerate being singled out by you just because you want to bash Christians and the Bible.

God is more than one emotion and is beyond human comprehension.
People like to give God limitations and that is blasphemous.

If people want to follow Him they have to understand He makes the rules.

I will talk respectful to you if you provide the same respect and reply fully to a post, I have done this many times on this forum with many other people of religion. I just don't like morons. 😉

a little something for you 😄

YouTube video

and just a few more for you

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.html

and back on topic if tax collectors are sinners then why is Matthew one of the apostles, wasn't he a tax collector?

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Funny how "trolls" call someone else a troll just because he has a different opinion from the majority.

😉

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I will talk respectful to you if you provide the same respect and reply fully to a post, I have done this many times on this forum with many other people of religion. I just don't like morons. 😉

How by attacking me again and trying to convince me about contractions using two burnt out "magicians" who know nothing about what they talk about.

That show is almost as sad as they are.

Originally posted by The Scribe
😉

How by attacking me again and trying to convince me about contractions using two burnt out "magicians" who know nothing about what they talk about.

That show is almost as sad as they are.

So if it is so sad, how about you show they are incorrect? How about you prove them wrong? OH that's right you can't because all you will say is they are sad "magicians", way to prove your point their genius. 😖

Originally posted by The Scribe
😉

How by attacking me again and trying to convince me about contractions using two burnt out "magicians" who know nothing about what they talk about.

That show is almost as sad as they are.

was r=their any inaccuracies in what they said?

Scribe, I didn't ask you to argue the point, I just told you to stop. You are still not replying to posts properly in order to troll. Do it again and you will receive a formal warning.