Is tax a sin?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
So, why do you reject God's One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church?

OH OH OH! I know this one!

Because that church became apostate, and, therefore, you guys lost the ability to use the priesthood long ago.

That's why God restored the church. It is now call the Chuch of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

You're welcome to become a member and actually hold the real priesthood at any time you want to. On top of that, you can get married and have sex WHILE being a "priest"! Hows that for a super deal? You can also have a "real" job while being a "priest". 😄

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
If they deliberately express their opinion in a way that is intended to stir up trouble it's trolling plain and simple.

Anyway, taxes are not noted as a sin in any religion I can think of.

Originally posted by dadudemon
OH OH OH! I know this one!

Because that church became apostate, and, therefore, you guys lost the ability to use the priesthood long ago.

That's why God restored the church. It is now call the Chuch of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

You're welcome to become a member and actually hold the real priesthood at any time you want to. On top of that, you can get married and have sex WHILE being a "priest"! Hows that for a super deal? You can also have a "real" job while being a "priest". 😄

Oh, fair enough. Can't really argue with that! I mean, I think you are wrong but, whatever eh!

Is taxation a sin? Only without representation.

Happy 4th, everyone.

😉

Originally posted by Digi
Is taxation a sin? Only without representation.

Happy 4th, everyone.

😉

A day which is a dark mark on the hears of millions!

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
A day which is a dark mark on the hears of millions!

so, its obvious you were going for "hearts", but I want to believe you were trying for "ears"

Originally posted by Da Pittman

and back on topic if tax collectors are sinners then why is Matthew one of the apostles, wasn't he a tax collector?

correct, he was a tax collector. rumors are that jesus took him on as a disciple [and later he became an apostle] to show the world that even the most evil among them could become a good man.

most villains in the new testament are a)religious men and Pharisees [who were villains because they were all rockin the jew thing at a high level and if that young whippersnapper's words got out, there would be less jewish people to worship them.]

b)romans, who are often completely oblivious as to what's going on, or are just trying to maintain status quo in rome. if they knew enough to be concious of what was going on [pontius pilate] they often disappear as a character because, hell, how could a roman heathen understand and undertake something so holy and beloved?

c) tax collectors, who were apparently all modeled after alan rickman as the sheriff of nottingham. if a tax collector came to "see the light" they quit their jobs, and since tax collectors were supposed to be stealing more money then they were sending of to the romans [villain b] [more proof of alan rickman connection]. but it usually took jesus to talk to the poor money hoarding jews personally who, after all, were just living the life their fathers had been [because a profession was a family affair - joseph was a carpenter, so was jesus.] like zaccheus. who was very short and very interested in the new philosophy going around and so climbed a tree to see jesus passing and jesus magically psychically and mind invasion-ally knew his name and where he lived and basically said, "so's i'm goin' to come to your place and we can twalk there, cool man." and brought zaccheus from the edge with a little pep talk about sharing.

yeaaaaahhhhh

Originally posted by siriuswriter
correct, he was a tax collector. rumors are that jesus took him on as a disciple [and later he became an apostle] to show the world that even the most evil among them could become a good man.

most villains in the new testament are a)religious men and Pharisees [who were villains because they were all rockin the jew thing at a high level and if that young whippersnapper's words got out, there would be less jewish people to worship them.]

b)romans, who are often completely oblivious as to what's going on, or are just trying to maintain status quo in rome. if they knew enough to be concious of what was going on [pontius pilate] they often disappear as a character because, hell, how could a roman heathen understand and undertake something so holy and beloved?

c) tax collectors, who were apparently all modeled after alan rickman as the sheriff of nottingham. if a tax collector came to "see the light" they quit their jobs, and since tax collectors were supposed to be stealing more money then they were sending of to the romans [villain b] [more proof of alan rickman connection]. but it usually took jesus to talk to the poor money hoarding jews personally who, after all, were just living the life their fathers had been [because a profession was a family affair - joseph was a carpenter, so was jesus.] like zaccheus. who was very short and very interested in the new philosophy going around and so climbed a tree to see jesus passing and jesus magically psychically and mind invasion-ally knew his name and where he lived and basically said, "so's i'm goin' to come to your place and we can twalk there, cool man." and brought zaccheus from the edge with a little pep talk about sharing.

yeaaaaahhhhh

Originally posted by Da Pittman
This is the problem, not all tax collectors were Sheriff of Nottingham types.

Of course not. But for the purpose of jesus and his parables, they had to be. it was a stereotype [and still rather is]. if jesus uses the merchant of venice jewish money lender, then there's so much more sympathy toward the person in the story who's just trying to do the right thing.

Originally posted by siriuswriter
Of course not. But for the purpose of jesus and his parables, they had to be. it was a stereotype [and still rather is]. if jesus uses the merchant of venice jewish money lender, then there's so much more sympathy toward the person in the story who's just trying to do the right thing.

Originally posted by siriuswriter
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c) tax collectors, who were apparently all modeled after alan rickman as the sheriff of nottingham. if a tax collector came to "see the light" they quit their jobs, and since tax collectors were supposed to be stealing more money then they were sending of to the romans ...

That would be a thief! Tax collectors can be thief, but it is thievery that is the sin not tax collecting.

well then, straight out.

no. paying taxes is not a sin. neither is being a tax collector.

the big BUT comes into play with the bible, making it a sort of moral guilt-trip question, though. as in "you would rather put your money in the government than give it to god so he can give food to the starving little children in armenia?"

also, jesus is all about self-sacrifice [for obvious reasons]. he praises those who give all they have to the not-yet-made church, and strongly implies that to not do so is a disappointment.

as mentioned before, jesus really makes only one poilitcal statement, and this he does because he's forced into a corner to answer. "give to caeser what it caeser's, give to god what is god's." i think that means, "give your earthly materials to caeser, but i'll take the psychological stuff." then he mutters behind his back [but of course what good deeds could we do without money?]

the church is a business too, but spirituality is not.

Originally posted by siriuswriter
the big BUT comes into play with the bible, making it a sort of moral guilt-trip question, though. as in "you would rather put your money in the government than give it to god so he can give food to the starving little children in armenia?"

Unless God has recently established a bank account you can't give money to him.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Unless God has recently established a bank account you can't give money to him.

God and I just happen to share a bank account, and I got the ok from the big man himself to inform you that you can put your money in that account. Just PM me for the account number. 😄

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Unless God has recently established a bank account you can't give money to him.

perhaps, but that fact isn't presented with the pictures of the starving armenians.

.... or the abused animals "please take me home" commercials with sarah machlaclan singing in the background.

If I remember it correctly, tax collectors during the bible times aren't really that trusted, because sometimes they ask for bribes. you know historically.

everyone asks for bribes nowadays.

anyway, i think that's why matthew was deemed a sinner, because it was well known that day that tax collectors ask for bribes or something.

that is, if i remember my stuff correctly.

Originally posted by siriuswriter
perhaps, but that fact isn't presented with the pictures of the starving armenians.

.... or the abused animals "please take me home" commercials with sarah machlaclan singing in the background.

a) Grammar grammar grammar.
b) Why not give some money to groups that help said children? No one is forcing you to choose between taxes and helping people.

Jesus: "Give to caeser what is caesers "

Originally posted by LaughLiveScream
Jesus: "Give to caeser what is caesers "

I was going to say that. haha.

From a Christian perspective, if you think you shouldn't pay taxes and claim to be a Christian, then you have never picked up a bible.
Jesus commanded us to pay taxes, and that was when he was talking about a Pagan roman state that is far worse than a good majority of nations out there today.
Not to mention Matthew was a tax collector.