501st vs. Hogwarts

Started by Rogue Jedi60 pages

Originally posted by WO Polaski
its not rubber. clone suits are designed to work in a vacuum, meaning space. so that means the body glove is completely 100% sealed, as any tiny hole even molecular would result in the wearer dying in a vacuum.
So its sealed, so what? Doesnt mean that it cannot be penerated.

doesnt mean a death spell can penetrate it either. you said this:

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Its a rubber body glove, man, the death spell wil penetrate rubber. Nice try though.

burden of proof is on you.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Its a rubber body glove, man, the death spell wil penetrate rubber. Nice try though.

500 clones here, thread rules.

Amazing how you stressed how fragile stormtrooper armor is in the SST thread, now you are praising it.

It's a bio-suit, as it can temporarily protect the user from the vacuum of space and chemical agents, it isn't porous like cloth. So no, the death spell isn't getting through it, as that spell is blocked by shit like doors, walls and stone.

500 battle trained soldiers are more than enough to handle mostly children and a handfull of powerful wizards, as the clones can spare to have several killed in exchange for 1-2 wizards. Comes down to a matter of who has greater numbers here; the clones do.

Stormtrooper armor is different than Clone armor, going by movie feats, which is what we do here. I suspect the Empire got cheap and had massive cutbacks later in life, buidling two Deathstars can be bankrupting.

just to enforce robtard:

Originally posted by WO Polaski
death eaters, ootp, teachers, are all normal people. i repeat my earlier statement. they are not super speed empowered beings and theyre not even real trained soldiers. theyre not tactical geniuses either. so what makes you think theyll have quicker reflexes then a mirror-image clone of a man who can fight a jedi in hand-to-hand combat?

buidling two Deathstars can be bankrupting.

Yeah man, just think about the loans they had to take out on those things, and their insurance must have went through the roof.

Originally posted by WO Polaski
doesnt mean a death spell can penetrate it either. you said this:

burden of proof is on you.

Quite the opposite, you are claiming it can repel the death spell, up to you to prove why. If an ewok arrow can penetrate it, then surely the death spell can.

Hey, didn't you just say something about bringing up the 501st stormtroopers??? These are clonetroopers, Ewoks wouldn't have stood a chance.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Quite the opposite, you are claiming it can repel the death spell, up to you to prove why. If an ewok arrow can penetrate it, then surely the death spell can.

you made the statement that it can go through the material before anyone else even brought it up but you never gave proof to your statement, so i dont have to prove anything. burdens on you.

Originally posted by WO Polaski
just to enforce robtard:

Going by what Genosians(sp?) said, the clones are genetically improved versions of Jango Fett, they're faster, stronger and tougher than he is. They're also extensively trained in warfare from childhood to adulthood. War is all they know; it's all they do.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Quite the opposite, you are claiming it can repel the death spell, up to you to prove why. If an ewok arrow can penetrate it, then surely the death spell can.

Which I did, using logic and reason, see above.

Ewok arrow went through Stromtrooper armor, not Clone armor. Also, a stone arrow is piercing/concussive, a death spell isn't.

Death spell can't go through a wall, its not going through a Clone's bio-suit. Better pull some other HP super-spell out of your fanboy ass. Cuz 500 battle ready soldiers are going to stomp children with wands and brooms.

Wands and brooms made of wood, they go whoosh when you hit em with a blaster bolt.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's a bio-suit, as it can temporarily protect the user from the vacuum of space and chemical agents, it isn't porous like cloth. So no, the death spell isn't getting through it, as that spell is blocked by shit like doors, walls and stone.

500 battle trained soldiers are more than enough to handle mostly children and a handfull of powerful wizards, as the clones can spare to have several killed in exchange for 1-2 wizards. Comes down to a matter of who has greater numbers here; the clones do.

Stormtrooper armor is different than Clone armor, going by movie feats, which is what we do here. I suspect the Empire got cheap and had massive cutbacks later in life, buidling two Deathstars can be bankrupting.

As I just said, an ewok arrow can penetrate the suit, but the death spell cant? The death spell shattered tombstones, remember? Arrows cant do that.

There are at least ten death eaters, about the same for the OOTP, then you have the aurors, the dementors, the hogwarts teachers, not to mention Voldemort and dumbles. The detah eaters and OOTP menbers will be flying around, untouchable, and apparating faster than the clones can follow.

Stormtrooper armor is the same shit, stop speculating. Provide proof it is different or drop it.

Another thing, portkeys. The wizards can leave several objects lying around as portkeys. If a clone picks it up or makes any contact at all with it, ZAP, they are out of the game. ✅

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
As I just said, an ewok arrow can penetrate the suit, but the death spell cant? The death spell shattered tombstones, remember? Arrows cant do that.

There are at least ten death eaters, about the same for the OOTP, then you have the aurors, the dementors, the hogwarts teachers, not to mention Voldemort and dumbles. The detah eaters and OOTP menbers will be flying around, untouchable, and apparating faster than the clones can follow.

Stormtrooper armor is the same shit, stop speculating. Provide proof it is different or drop it.

Another thing, portkeys. The wizards can leave several objects lying around as portkeys. If a clone picks it up or makes any contact at all with it, ZAP, they are out of the game. ✅

I don't recall it "shattering" the tombstone, more like knocking it a bit back. Also, Clone armor is likely more durable than stone.

Dementors aren't here, see the OP setting. Even if they were, they'd need a spell that could kill the Clones, as the death spell isn't working pasted their bio-suits. See above.

It looks very different, flimsy even, it has an opening under the neck (Clone armor doesn't). Ergo, it's not the same shit and it stands to reason the Empire was affected by the cost of running a massive Empire. Roman armor dated circa 50BC- 100AD is far superior the the shit later on. Why? The cost to keep so many soldiers armed with top-of-the-line armaments got too costly.

Edit: Even catering to your nonsense that the Death Spell does work through the Clone armor, not all that many wizards know it, so 500 soldiers are still blasting all the wizards to shit, just more will be dead by the time Hogwarts is in rubble.

WHy would the clones just pick up random objects?

Info on the armors

Clone Trooper Armor - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Clone_trooper_armor

Stormtrooper Armor - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stormtrooper_armor

Under stormtrooper protective measures, it says that while stormtrooper armor was weaker than Phase I and II clone armor, it offered better protection against the elements.

And a slugthrower can penetrate tombstones easy, but that won't get through a trooper suit, blaster bolts can slag and shatter stone too.

Originally posted by WO Polaski
you made the statement that it can go through the material before anyone else even brought it up but you never gave proof to your statement, so i dont have to prove anything. burdens on you.
It's a black body glove, made of rubber, how is rubber gonna stop a death spell?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It's a black body glove, made of rubber, how is rubber gonna stop a death spell?

In reality it's rubber, it the movies is clearly supposed to be something more advanced and highly protective, you nit.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't recall it "shatterin" the tombstone, more like knocking it a bit back. Also, Clone armor is likely more durable than stone.

Dementors are here, see the OP setting. Even if they were, they'd need a spell that could kill the Clones, as the death spell isn't working pasted their bio-suits. See above.

It looks very different, flimsy even, it has an opening under the neck (Clone armor doesn't). Ergo, it's not the same shit and it stands to reason the Empire was affected by the cost of running a massive Empire. Roman armor dated circa 50BC- 100AD is far superior the the shit later on. Why? The cost to keep so many soldiers armed with top-of-the-line armaments got too costly.

Clone trooper armor more durable than stone? Oooooooooooooooook.......

Its only fair to have the dementors here, against 500 someodd clones. They are, agfter all, n extension of Umbridges power. What would you say if I said Annie should be stripped of his force powers? Same shit.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It's a black body glove, made of rubber, how is rubber gonna stop a death spell?

you have no proof its made of rubber so why do you keep saying its rubber? how do you know its rubber? because its black?

Originally posted by Robtard
In reality it's rubber, it the movies is clearly supposed to be something more advanced and highly protective, you nit.
Is this stated in the movies? Hmm? Nope. Nor is it implied.

Originally posted by WO Polaski
you have no proof its made of rubber so why do you keep saying its rubber? how do you know its rubber? because its black?
How do you know its NOT made of rubber? Hmm?