The power packs were the same as the DC-15A blaster rifle, which allowed the same power as their larger cousin.Power packs. Energy. ELECTRICITY. The energy weapons obtain their power from ELECTRICITY, hence the need for POWER PACKS. If the electricity is disrupted, the weapon does not fire. Same with a lightsaber, all those electrical components, electricity flowing back and forth between them, you disrupt the flow of electricity, the weapon does not work.
I know you are not a stupid man, why are you even arguing this?
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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Power_packs-Most power cells contained concentrated amounts of gases that, when heated, formed plasma. In small blasters, power cells were used to create blaster bolts that were not nearly as powerful as blasters using a combination of magazines containing gases (that after being heated would change into plasma) and proper Blaster power packs.
Oh and by the way, the Force> magic by miles. When magic can cause super-novas, kill planets, drain an entire species of life, destroy fleets, create fleets, create illusionary fleets, manipulate black holes and disintergrate stuff, give me a call.
Originally posted by Nephthys
❌http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Power_packs-Most power cells contained concentrated amounts of gases that, when heated, formed[b] plasma.
In small blasters, power cells were used to create blaster bolts that were not nearly as powerful as blasters using a combination of magazines containing gases (that after being heated would change into plasma) and proper Blaster power packs.Oh and by the way, the Force> magic by miles. When magic can cause super-novas, kill planets, drain an entire species of life, destroy fleets, create fleets, create illusionary fleets, manipulate black holes and disintergrate stuff, give me a call. [/B]
Nice that you left this part out:
Certain creatures, such as the shadow lurkers, fed on the energy of power cells, rendering its device useless.[1]
Energy and electricity are linked in blasters. Even if they aren't, you telling me that there is not one electrical component in a blaster? Silly. 😛
Also, that link is about power packs, not BLASTER power packs. here is the proper one:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Blaster_power_pack
Blaster power packs were small energy storage devices that powered portable blasters.
And I meant Magic pwns the force power that Anakin possesses in ROTS, I thought that was obvious.
Nice that you left this part out:Certain creatures, such as the shadow lurkers, fed on the energy of power cells, rendering its device useless.[1]
Energy and electricity are linked in blasters. Even if they aren't, you telling me that there is not one electrical component in a blaster? Silly.
Also, that link is about power packs, not BLASTER power packs. here is the proper one:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Blaster_power_pack
Blaster power packs were small energy storage devices that powered portable blasters.
Energy doesn't equal electricity. As the link explains, the energy comes from plasma, not electricity.
And I'm not saying anything. You make the claim, you prove they use electricity.
And I meant Magic pwns the force power that Anakin possesses in ROTS, I thought that was obvious.
Two different universes here, man. The force has limits, magic almost no limits, ergo magic trumps the force.
Why oh why didn't I see it.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So, right here, right now, you are telling me that ALL the Clone tech will be unaffected by the spell? If so then you are truly deluded.
Why is he deluded...You're the one claiming that the devices run on electricity despite the evidence to the contrary.
I don't think it's a huge leap to think that a star wars blaster doesn't work the same way as an earth toaster.
Nothing points to them working on anything other than good old fashioned eletricity/energy.
See, I brought it up, I provided links stating that the gear counts on energy/electricity in one way or the other, you guys are claiming that it is some kind of super SW shit, up to you guys to prove it.
Til then, it's just electricity and energy like we have here.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nothing points to them working on anything other than good old fashioned eletricity/energy.See, I brought it up, I provided links stating that the gear counts on energy/electricity in one way or the other, you guys are claiming that it is some kind of super SW shit, up to you guys to prove it.
Til then, it's just electricity and energy like we have here.
You mean except for the parts where they work on compounds and minerals that are completely fictional.
So no...It's not like electricty we have here...I've never seen a coal powered lightsaber on star wars.
So no...It's not up to us to prove anything. We're not the ones making the claims...You are.
So until you show a real life Diatium powercell or Trumponium gas then we can assume that not every weapon or ship in the starwars universe is reliant on electricity or electrical energy entirely.
I'm not saying that there aren't electrical weapons in star wars though...There are lots of them. The most obvious being the electrostaffs used by the magnaguards in episode 3...But they're only a small fraction of the weapons in star wars.
Originally posted by Nephthys
And he reaches.... and fails.Sorry, you made the claim that power pack us electricity, I provided a link showing they don't, they run on plasma. You make a claim, you prove it. And you haven't.
Read again what you posted:
Most power cells contained concentrated amounts of gases that, when heated, formed plasma. In small blasters, power cells were used to create blaster bolts that were not nearly as powerful as blasters using a combination of magazines containing gases (that after being heated would change into plasma) and proper Blaster power packs.
Says MOST.
Here, this explains laser mechanics:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Blaster
edit Laser mechanics
A common DH-17 blaster pistol used by the Rebellion.A laser beam was a coherent shaft of light. When referring to light (or any other wave pattern for that matter), coherence refers to the pattern's "sameness" in multiple waves. In other words, each light wave emitted from the laser device had the same wavelength and amplitude as all other waves emitted from the same device, and all "crests" and "troughs" of every wave were aligned with the others.
Lasers were generated by introducing energy to a medium, the substance used to generate the beams. Tibanna gas was a frequently favored medium. When an atom of the medium was excited by energy, one or more of its electrons would "jump" to a higher energy level. When the atom stabilized (the point at which the electrons return to their original energy levels), a photon was released. A photon was a "packet" of energy that traveled in both a wave-like and a particulate manner, giving it a high energy level, as well as a high damage rating.
Also, a blaster rifle is surely a very complex piece of technology. You really believe that there are zero electrical components within?
Originally posted by jaden101And the Clones sensors? Their in helmet displays? The onboard systems of their walkers? What of them?
You mean except for the parts where they work on compounds and minerals that are completely fictional.So no...It's not like electricty we have here...I've never seen a coal powered lightsaber on star wars.
So no...It's not up to us to prove anything. We're not the ones making the claims...You are.
So until you show a real life Diatium powercell or Trumponium gas then we can assume that not every weapon or ship in the starwars universe is reliant on electricity or electrical energy entirely.
I'm not saying that there aren't electrical weapons in star wars though...There are lots of them. The most obvious being the electrostaffs used by the magnaguards in episode 3...But they're only a small fraction of the weapons in star wars.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Read again what you posted:Most power cells contained concentrated amounts of gases that, when heated, formed plasma. In small blasters, power cells were used to create blaster bolts that were not nearly as powerful as blasters using a combination of magazines containing gases (that after being heated would change into plasma) and proper Blaster power packs.
Says MOST.
Here, this explains laser mechanics:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Blaster
edit Laser mechanics
A common DH-17 blaster pistol used by the Rebellion.A laser beam was a coherent shaft of light. When referring to light (or any other wave pattern for that matter), coherence refers to the pattern's "sameness" in multiple waves. In other words, each light wave emitted from the laser device had the same wavelength and amplitude as all other waves emitted from the same device, and all "crests" and "troughs" of every wave were aligned with the others.Lasers were generated by introducing energy to a medium, the substance used to generate the beams. Tibanna gas was a frequently favored medium. When an atom of the medium was excited by energy, one or more of its electrons would "jump" to a higher energy level. When the atom stabilized (the point at which the electrons return to their original energy levels), a photon was released. A photon was a "packet" of energy that traveled in both a wave-like and a particulate manner, giving it a high energy level, as well as a high damage rating.
Also, a blaster rifle is surely a very complex piece of technology. You really believe that there are zero electrical components within?
Well is there any mention of the word "electric" or "electronic" or "electricity" anywhere in what you just posted?
And don't say the bit about electrons changing energy states backs up your opinion because electrons change from one energy state to another in chemical reactions that have nothing to do with electricity.
Keep in mind that an electrical cell is entirely different from an electrochemical cell and works in an entirely different way to produce energy.
Originally posted by jaden101
What about them?...You're the one that has to prove they operate from electricity for your point to be valid...Not the other way around.
Well, I found this on AT TE walkers:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/All_Terrain_Tactical_Enforcer
An AT-TE was impervious to ion damage due to built-in electromagnetic shielding. Its average speed was 60 kph (37.2 mph). This plodding pace allowed it to penetrate energy shields, a feat that was impossible for repulsorlift craft. Effective in numerous terrains and environments, some models of the walker was even capable of scaling vertical cliffs, similar to the later UT-AT transport.[10]
And this on Ion cannons:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ion_cannon
These particles seriously interfered with the operation of electronics and computer systems, shorting circuits and often disabling them outright. The actual physical damage would sometimes result in fused joints on machines, due to the heat produced.[1]
Large negative-ion pulses were charged in a turbine generator then channeled into a plasma charge or released as a large pulse towards a target. As a result, ion cannons were the weapon of choice for subduing, rather than destroying, enemy starships, vehicles, shields, or droids.
Still looking though.
Why would the AT TE walker be impervious to Ion cannon fire if it has no electrical components within?
These particles seriously interfered with the operation of electronics and computer systems, shorting circuits and often disabling them outright.
An AT-TE was impervious to ion damage due to built-in electromagnetic shielding.
This pretty much implies that there are indeed electrical components within the walkers.
Right...so you've got 1 thing that has electrical componets (although what they are and how important they are you still haven't ascertained)
You'll also have to educate me on Harry Potter though because i've never read them in my life. So just how far does this magic disruption of electrical components reach beyond Hogwarts...Given that a AT-ST can have an effective range of 2km. I'm curious to know as to whether or not they can fire from outwith the area affected.
Originally posted by jaden101
Right...so you've got 1 thing that has electrical componets (although what they are and how important they are you still haven't ascertained)You'll also have to educate me on Harry Potter though because i've never read them in my life. So just how far does this magic disruption of electrical components reach beyond Hogwarts...Given that a AT-ST can have an effective range of 2km. I'm curious to know as to whether or not they can fire from outwith the area affected.
The disruption field extends all the way to Hogsmeade, which is farther than the edge of the forbidden forest. Thats where the clones are, on the edge of the forbidden forest, waiting to commence attacking, so the 2km range of the walkers weapons are of no importance.
Looking into clone sensors now.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, I seriously doubt the walker has like 1% of it's systems dependent on electricity. Makes sense that most if not all of the walker relies on electricity to operate efficiently.The disruption field extends all the way to Hogsmeade, which is farther than the edge of the forbidden forest. Thats where the clones are, on the edge of the forbidden forest, waiting to commence attacking, so the 2km range of the walkers weapons are of no importance.
Looking into clone sensors now.
What you seriously doubt is of little relevance to the discussion though.
I have absolutely no idea how far that is. 😆
But then my interest in HP is non existant.
Originally posted by jaden101
What you seriously doubt is of little relevance to the discussion though.I have absolutely no idea how far that is. 😆
But then my interest in HP is non existant.
Just saying, why would one small area of a walker run on electricity, but not a large part of the rest? Doesn't make much sense.
Here is a map of Hogwarts:
