501st vs. Hogwarts

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I thought that too at one point, but I realised it was unlikely, unless the darkside messes with your dentistry and entire physiology in under 30 secs...I'd probably say not. (And it doesnt appear to have worsened any 20 odd years later in ROTJ.)

And Anakin had the the ol' sith yellow eye for a bit, yet nothing else changed.... Teeth, skeleton, skin tone, etc etc

He wasn't using the force lightning for an extended time either. Or maybe it was using the force with killing intent or something.

Well if he was at full blast, he would have likely killed himself or blasted himself clear through a wall, we all saw his Unlimmmmitteddddd Powwwwerrrr sudden 0-160mph unelashin on Mace...

Thats another thing that points to Palps having played with Mace just long enough to let Anakin see "The Betrayal", and blaming the Jedi, turning Anakin. ('once he has seized power and blamed the Jedi for his "condition", he wouldn't have to hide it anymore' kinda thinking.)

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well if he was at full blast, he would have likely killed himself or blasted himself clear through a wall, we all saw his Unlimmmmitteddddd Powwwwerrrr sudden 0-160mph unelashin on Mace...

Thats another thing that points to Palps having played with Mace just long enough to let Anakin see "The Betrayal", and blaming the Jedi, turning Anakin. ('once he has seized power and blamed the Jedi for his "condition", he wouldn't have to hide it anymore' kinda thinking.)

The lightsaber portion of their fight was legit, Palpatine was defeated. His feigning weakness was all bullshit though.

I say the exact moment that Palps gets disarmed and is made to scuttle back was suspiciously timed at Anakin's arrival. like Creshosk says.

(If Anakin had arrived to see Palps Kicking Mace-ass all round that office, it wouldn't have prompted him to commit to the rash decision he made of aiding in killing Mace...an act after which Anakin was given the name Vader and was made Sith.)

During the Lighsabre fight, there werre times where Palps caught Mace wide open, and could have killed him there and then...but he lets the fight go on longer.... I'll rewatch the movies this week, and I'll point out the points at which it happens. For now though , look for the bit where Mace is arms outstretched to the side and palps has his blade right infront of Mace's throat/chest....and he just lets Mace off...blatantly. Thats one of the moments im on about. )

Originally posted by Creshosk
A lot of people say the fght was legit. But I thought plapatine was a little too calculating for that and the timing was awfully convinent.

Yes they do. I agree with you, however..
And there are supporting bits of the fight that show Palps to be toying with Mace/stalling as if waiting.
He played Anakin like he was a fiddle, and Mace was used a part of the catgut in the bow.

Originally posted by Creshosk
What movie did they use the force to effect flame?

Hey, wizards can bend water and air. Why? Cuz I say so.

Yeah we've dealt with that. The can just grab the air/space that the Fiendfyre occupies and that air, space is either frozen there or thrown at wizards. 🙂

Mhm, except the Jedi are never shown doing that. ❌ That, my friend, is pyrokinesis. Pyro can do that, Zuko can do that, Firestarter can lulz wtf do that. Jedi cannot.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Mhm, except the Jedi are never shown doing that. ❌ That, my friend, is pyrokinesis. Pyro can do that, Zuko can do that, Firestarter can lulz wtf do that. Jedi cannot.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
None.

Hey, wizards can bend water and air. Why? Cuz I say so.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Mhm, except the Jedi are never shown doing that. ❌ That, my friend, is pyrokinesis. Pyro can do that, Zuko can do that, Firestarter can lulz wtf do that. Jedi cannot.

Originally posted by Creshosk
TV series Zuko can't, film Zuko can.
Not because you say so but because they can. Aguamenta is a water spell for example.

I know.

And yes, I know, it was a rhetorical statement.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Mhm, except the Jedi are never shown doing that. ❌ That, my friend, is pyrokinesis. Pyro can do that, Zuko can do that, Firestarter can lulz wtf do that. Jedi cannot.

You just shot your own statement in the foot again.

They start fires with their mind.

Big difference as Regular TK can push the air the flame occupies, BUT the wielder's mind doesn't START the fire itself.

Ergo: TK not full blown Pyrokinesis. 🙂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You just shot your own statement in the foot again.

They start fires with their mind.

Big difference as Regular TK can push the air the flame occupies, BUT the wielder's mind doesn't START the fire itself.

Ergo: TK not full blown Pyrokinesis. 🙂

Nahhhh Im not...unless you mean about how once the spell has been cast, that it is seldom controllable by the wizard who cast it. EASY take over for the force.

TK directed control of air FTW. 🙂

Buuuurrrn baby burnnnn...wiza-aaaard inferrrrrrrrr-nooooooo...

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nahhhh Im not...unless you mean about how once the spell has been cast, that it is seldom controllable by the wizard who cast it. EASY take over for the force.

TK directed control of air FTW. 🙂

Buuuurrrn baby burnnnn...wiza-aaaard inferrrrrrrrr-nooooooo...

Second, all it takes is one wizard, Voldemort, or Bella, or Fenrir, or even Snape to cast fiendfyre.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK first, Pyro and Zuko cannot "start fires with their mind." Dumbass.

Second, all it takes is one wizard, Voldemort, or Bella, or Fenrir, or even Snape to cast fiendfyre.

But they massively amplify it.

Well it would take one of those, cause virtually no other f***er can control it lol

But all you've really done is ensured the Wizards' destruction by having them kindly give the commanding Force Users more Fiendfyre redirect onto Voldemort, Bella, Fenrir, or Snape. 🙂

Anyways, the castle was destroyed early on on the thread when it was pulled down. Killing the wizards. Ages ago.

AGES.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
But they massively amplify it.

Tip: Only Iroh can in airbender.

Well it would take one of those, cause virtually no other f***er can control it lol

But all you've really done is ensured the Wizards' destruction by having them kindly give the commanding Force Users more Fiendfyre redirect onto Voldemort, Bella, Fenrir, or Snape. 🙂

Anyways, the castle was destroyed early on on the thread when it was pulled down. Killing the wizards. Ages ago.

😆