Old Republic Jedi vs. PT Jedi

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Old Republic Jedi vs. PT Jedi

I haven't paid much attention tot his game until someone said "from the trailers, Old Republic Jedi would stomp the PT Jedi"

So...
YouTube video

I have bad eyesight so maybe that's the reason but none of them seem to be fighting at speeds even that far beyond just movie Jedi. So can someone tell me if I'm just missing stuff and they're really that much more powerful in these trailers?

PT Jedi=Prime of the Jedi. There may have been very powerful Jedi during the Old Republic, but as a collective unit, the PT Jedi are the most powerful, and the gayest.

That's not my question.
Question is: is what we see in the trailer even beyond movie Jedi in terms of speed or combat or power? And if it is, by how much?

Their combat abilities seem to be more powerful than those of the movies. However, the speed difference between the two sets seems negligible.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
PT Jedi=Prime of the Jedi. There may have been very powerful Jedi during the Old Republic, but as a collective unit, the PT Jedi are the most powerful, and the gayest.

Not according to the KotOR Campaign Guide.
"Even more so than in the Clone Wars, these are the days of the Jedi in their prime."

Well George Lucas' statement is above any Sourcebook I'm afraid.

Yup. PT Jedi>any other Old Republic era. The NJO though...

Originally posted by ares834
Not according to the KotOR Campaign Guide.
"Even more so than in the Clone Wars, these are the days of the Jedi in their prime."
Not according to george lucas the supreme ruler of canon.

Lucas > kotor campaign guide.

Lucas and his usage of Informed Ability sadly beats the plethora evidence we have to make the case that Old Republic Jedi could beat the shit out of PT era Jedi. Yay for suspension of disbelief.

the plethora of evidence sucks though. its mostly just quotes.

Originally posted by WO Polaski
the plethora of evidence sucks though. its mostly just quotes.

Ancient Jedi

1. There are a lot of Sith in the Old Republic Era.
2. Jedi and Sith generally fight each other in duels with lightsabers.
3. There are two galatic spanning wars in which thousands of Jedi and Sith fight each other. Not three hundred years later, there is another galatic spanning war that apparently lasts decades.
4. Source material mentions that many Jedi became masters at lightsaber combat out of necessity, due to saber to saber combat being the norm. With the constant threat of the Sith, this was always important.
5. From all that, we can infer that many Jedi during this era were battle hardened and ready for war.

PT Era Jedi

1. 1,000 years of peace save for a few minor skirmishes
2. Sith are little more than a myth.
3. Redirecting blaster fire is a primary focus.
4. The majority of enemies the Jedi face in the CW are droids dumber than a fvucking stump. Either that or planetary militia.
5. From all that, we can infer that the Jedi Order of the PT Era is stagnant and save for the exception of the notable masters (Mace, Yoda etc) the Jedi of this era would be woefully unprepared for saber to saber combat.

As you can see, the evidence is hardly just "quotes".

Originally posted by Autokrat
Ancient Jedi

1. There are a lot of Sith in the Old Republic Era.
2. Jedi and Sith generally fight each other in duels with lightsabers.
3. There are two galatic spanning wars in which thousands of Jedi and Sith fight each other. Not three hundred years later, there is another galatic spanning war that apparently lasts decades.
4. Source material mentions that many Jedi became masters at lightsaber combat out of necessity, due to saber to saber combat being the norm. With the constant threat of the Sith, this was always important.
5. From all that, we can infer that many Jedi during this era were battle hardened and ready for war.

PT Era Jedi

1. 1,000 years of peace save for a few minor skirmishes
2. Sith are little more than a myth.
3. Redirecting blaster fire is a primary focus.
4. The majority of enemies the Jedi face in the CW are droids dumber than a fvucking stump. Either that or planetary militia.
5. From all that, we can infer that the Jedi Order of the PT Era is stagnant and save for the exception of the notable masters (Mace, Yoda etc) the Jedi of this era would be woefully unprepared for saber to saber combat.

As you can see, the evidence is hardly just "quotes".

Being battle hardened and tested doesn't equate to having skill. As a collective whole, the jedi of the PT are clearly superior to the Old Republic Jedi. There are a few Old Republic Jedi/Sith that could challenge the greatest of the PT Jedi, but again, collective whole.

Dr McBeefington
Being battle hardened and tested doesn't equate to having skill. As a collective whole, the jedi of the PT are clearly superior to the Old Republic Jedi.
How?

Originally posted by Eminence
How?

How do you mean how? Yoda, Mace, Drallig, Obiwan, Skywalker, Dooku, etc... And that's just at the top of my head.

Who do you have in the old republic? Revan, Malak, Kun, Qel Droma. HARDLY a comparison.

How do the best of the era represent "the collective whole"?

Originally posted by Eminence
How do the best of the era represent "the collective whole"?

If we're taking the best of both eras as a sample representation, PT outdoes the Old Republic Jedi. Based on that sample, the caliber of Jedi for the PT seems superior.

The best of the era don't represent the collective whole.

Originally posted by Eminence
The best of the era don't represent the collective whole.

Granted, it's late. But if the best of the PT>the best of Old Republic, I don't see how one can make an argument that the Old Republic Jedi are superior just because they've participated in more battles.

I've always disliked the PT Jedi being the prime. I stand by my preference that the PT Jedi and Sith should suck compared to their ancestors. Sigh.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I've always disliked the PT Jedi being the prime. I stand by my preference that the PT Jedi and Sith should suck compared to their ancestors. Sigh.

Yea believe me I'm a huge fan of the first being the greatest. The first vampire, the first lycan, the first dark Jedi, the first sith, etc. I'm all about the ancient sith being at the pinnacle of knowledge and power, but George spoke up so whatever.