Silver Surfer vs Hal Jordan: Who is More Versatile?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

"perceiving all periods and aspects of time simultaneously" I smell something wrong here. Scans?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5396951

You're doing it wrong, you're supposed to just link him to the respect thread.

If we take into account all feats, both pre and post crisis, they're about equal. Hal has some telepathy feats, energy drainage, evolve/devolve beings, stopping and manipulating time, converting beings into pure energy, teleportation, cosmic tracking, manipulating magic and all forms of energy, battling while being unconscious, etc... the ring can basically do anything.

Green Lanterns were affected by the crisis now?

They both seem able to do pretty much whatever a plot requires...though I'm inclined to rank Hal as more versatile if only because a planet-finder (Surfer's original job: why he was created) shouldn't really require wide-ranging versatility, whereas versatility is pretty much the whole point of the ring.

Originally posted by Mindship
They both seem able to do pretty much whatever a plot requires...though I'm inclined to rank Hal as more versatile if only because a planet-finder (Surfer's original job: why he was created) shouldn't really require wide-ranging versatility, whereas versatility is pretty much the whole point of the ring.

Seriously, considering teleportation and cosmic awareness, the entire purpose of Galactus' heralds are lost on me xD

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Seriously, considering teleportation and cosmic awareness, the entire purpose of Galactus' heralds are lost on me xD

In any event, a planet-finder basically needs:
- awareness to find the planet.
- transit speed to get there and check it out further.
- basic offense and defense (eg, shields, bolts) to soften up any resistance (here's where immense brute power is handy).
- a way to signal the Devourer.

their versatility is about equals i think..

Originally posted by Mindset
You're doing it wrong, you're supposed to just link him to the respect thread.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Green Lanterns were affected by the crisis now?

Personally I'm torn on the matter. I don't like the idea of tossing out feats that are still in continuity, but I can see a lot of reason to doubt their validity.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Green Lanterns were affected by the crisis now?

not in my book.

Originally posted by Naija boy
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5396951

Nice, but not something I can't see a GL doing.

And since the Guardians and CPB were imprisoned during COIE by Anti-Monitor, that part was not affected. Hell, look how they referenced the "last time you imprisoned us."

Mindship: it's an act of compassion. The herald is to warn people Galactus is coming so they have time to flee if possible. Galactus doesn't try to eat as much as possible, just enough to stave off the hunger.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

Mindship: it's an act of compassion.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Nice, but not something I can't see a GL doing.

And since the Guardians and CPB were imprisoned during COIE by Anti-Monitor, that part was not affected. Hell, look how they referenced the "last time you imprisoned us."

Mindship: it's an act of compassion. The herald is to warn people Galactus is coming so they have time to flee if possible. Galactus doesn't try to eat as much as possible, just enough to stave off the hunger.

..............Yeah im sure u can see a gl doing it. However what u see a gl doing is pretty irrelevant if they HAVENT done it. So please bring up a feat that a gl has done (preferrably post crisis so we can compare SS to current gls) that is similar to it or that shows they have this sort of ability. If not.............then we cant just assume they can do it just because we think or wish they could.

Anyhow, as i said in my earlier post, Surfer is definitely more versatile than gls (especially post crisis) and nothing has been shown to indicate otherwise.

The current GL are pretty weak. SS>Current Hal.

The crisis didn't really effect a gl's ability to be versatile or tampered with their power levels. I haven't seen surfer do anything that a top tier GL hasn't.

But the fact that Superman's feats were lowered effectively lowered everyone else.

Superman is the root of all evil.

Originally posted by Mindship
Jack Kirby's initial reasoning for a herald of a space god makes sense emotionally. But yeah, wouldn't it make more sense logically for a being like Galactus to send out, say, millions or billions of planet-finding probes, rather than send out one guy at a time to scour the whole universe?

In any event, a planet-finder basically needs:
- awareness to find the planet.
- transit speed to get there and check it out further.
- basic offense and defense (eg, shields, bolts) to soften up any resistance (here's where immense brute power is handy).
- a way to signal the Devourer.

The minute you see a planet-finding probe that would potentially summon a world-eating God to your front porch, you wouldn't try to destroy it?

I think the power level required to be able to stomp out any kind of resistance before the coming of Galactus needed for him to create Heralds empowered by the PC.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
don't forget his cosmic awareness, half the universe's population was erased and he felt it.

Hal has cosmic awareness as well. he even knew Superman's origin before he did! Hal has also controlled spirits, able to freely move through time, SENSE Psychic vibrations, beat down one of the most powerful telepaths in comics (hector), manipulate energy (EM, magnetic, even abstracts like emotions, etc...)