Silver Surfer vs Hal Jordan: Who is More Versatile?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
hal has shown all types of matter manipulation. everything from changing the composition of his body to evolving and devolving super beings.

really? what's the score? hal 17, surfer 81?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
really? what's the score? hal 17, surfer 81?

Fair enough. 🙂 That doesn't make Surfer more versatile, though.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Fair enough. 🙂 That doesn't make Surfer more versatile, though.

Originally posted by Raoul
Based on past feats? Surfer.

Potentially? Hal.

gl's can counter attacks too. remember in brave and bold a weapon had the ability to counter ANY attack. Hal then countered it.

Apparently, it couldn't.

because the rings are that good.

And the fact that the device couldn't counter any attack.

That was the weapons claim to analyze any foe and come up with a way to counter them. hals ring actually replicates it and throws it right back. pretty sweet feat.

I don't disagree.

But it can't counter any attack.

Originally posted by Stoic
Because from where I'm sitting it would take everything that the Surfer has done in his entire history to compare with how easily Hal manipulates energy. I've never really thought that the Surfer should have ever been compared to Hal in the first place.

One of these guys is a pure powerhouse while the other can be compared to a precision instrument, Hal has simply showed that he can do more with his powers than the Surfer can.

Am I saying that Hal would win a majority if he fought the Surfer? No, only that he can use his power with more flavors added to it than the Surfer.

This as I attempted to point out earlier is the only way for me to determine who is more versatile.

THis logic is faulty. First of all using energy constrcts is not the only way to manipulate energy. Therefore it is false to believe that Hals energy manipulation is superior to Surfers just because he can create more constructs and what have you. Surfer has numerous feats in that regard that surpass Hals. Further there are numerous other areas in which surfer is more impressive than Hal such as matter manip,psionic abilities etc. If we take those into account, they outweigh the energy manip advantage u believe Hal has (which he doesnt have anyway).

If no one is against PC feats, lets match up Hal/Norrin feat for feat.

Whose game?

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

would U take that as an indicator that he *cant* do it??

Tazer

No, I would take it as an indicator that there is yet a need to present proof that he *can* do it. Like I said, Nova can do self-repair, but he can't repair others.

Originally posted by Raoul
and there's no evidence to suggest he can't heal others. during the arc where he stitches himself up, he also destroys nanites within the systems of other green lanterns. leezle pon (sp?), a GL version of the smallpox virus, kills a sinestro corps virus inside guy gardner in GL 25.

Well, I can't prove a negative. I thought we went by feats here? It's not up to me to claim that he *can't* do it more than it is for you to prove that he can.

Like I said, curing diseases is different from fixing tissue damage. Supreme was able to cure cancer with his eye lasers but (in the same page) couldn't fix the tissue damage he inflicted on Kid Supreme.

Also, I've reviewed the page, if he could heal tissue damage, why didn't he just heal her? Why bother with putting up a stretcher and crying over her injured body?

Originally posted by id369
If no one is against PC feats, lets match up Hal/Norrin feat for feat.

Whose game?

Some of those feats are just insane.