Originally posted by Kris Blazemaybe. but the fact is, we've only got that one showing to go by...
I think J'onn should be able to as well.
Originally posted by PRAYERRUNj'onn has also done this [he was kind of doing so with joker, in fact.]
Prof. is in the department of helping people fight their demons.
let us get this into context in that scan MM is not trying to help joker he is simply trying to telepathically order the joker to perform a task ( ie hand over a stone). the supposed sannity that the contact with the mm's mind had was actually a side effect nothing more. yes he says he is makeing him sane but he is aware that this is just a by product of mm searching for specfic information bringng a certain order. mm actually shows very limited control over joker notice how flash has to grab the magic stone off him... he does not hand it over freely. however i feel that not telepth can truely cure the joker the fact is that he does not want to be cured and he wont be. wasnt t he sabertooth affair more forges fault rather then xavier ( i understand he grew resistant to whatever was in his body) it should be noted the level of control phylocke has over sabertooth when she used her telepathy on him..... however i do not think xavier has a really good track record can anyone actually name someone he has helped with his TP.. his TP failed to heal his own sons fractured mind. he had the oppterunity to help reform both sabertooth and his own brother but failed ( at one point in time xavier had a machine that would remove cains powers). xaviers mortality is excepionally mercy and his charcter has really been stained over the last few years... yet people still see him as a saint? let us not forget xaviers solution to the magnerto problem.... he mind whiped him causing many many more problems then it solved. both xavier and mm are both unable to reform people.
The solution to the Magneto problem? Any soldier or any x-man would've shot Magneto dead, killed him. Telepathically attacking someone who just pulled the adamantium out of Wolverine is hardly unethical. Your acting as if Xavier had the chance to rehabilitate Magneto and make him see the error of his ways.
The way Xavier attempted to "cure" Legion and Sabretooth are completely different from the way I'm suggesting he cures the Joker here.
xavier practically did shoot magneto dead. he was in a coma for a very long time. however xavier could have easily telepathicaly commanded to sleep rather then cause him brain damage. xavier is for all his good intentions quite a hypercirt ( it has recently been revealed /retconned to suggest that xavier could have done more to heal rogues condtion but did not.
. i personaly do not think that xavier has the patience or the mentality to truely heal anyone. xavier only tries to help people if it goes along with his grand designs and plans.
Originally posted by rougeredmage
xavier practically did shoot magneto dead. he was in a coma for a very long time. however xavier could have easily telepathicaly commanded to sleep rather then cause him brain damage.
That is some proper bullshit. Magneto's got insane telepathic resistance and a lot of Xavier's telepathic energy was going to his suit. Xavier was well within his rights to mindwipe Magneto there and telepathically forcing Magneto to go to sleep is not even close to an option.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
Agreed, I think J'onn could have "cured" the Joker if he had the time. A couple of days under J'onn's mental help could have done wonders for Jokers
Yeah but it'd require DC to get their hands off of the Joker's dick for 2 seconds.