Originally posted by Eternal Idol
What I will argue, however, is damage output. Just about every character has their high and low showings, but those don't really count because the characters in question are not at those levels consistently enough. When they are at that level, either they got an upgrade of some kind, or the writers are churning out subpar material unfaithful to the character and his abilities/limitations. Batman hurting Grundy, when the latter is normally shrugging off haymakers from Superman or Green Lantern, is just bullshit.That's all I really gotta say about Batman vs. Metas/Herald-level opponents.
Back on topic, Wolverine gets a majority in h2h, unless you strip him of the rest of his natural advantages (enhanced strength/speed, high bone density, etc.)
Like I said, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it doesn't count. It's happened consistently throughout Bruce's history.
Back on topic, Batman takes a good majority over Wolverine without his healing and adamantium.