Pikachu vs Cole McGrath

Originally posted by Foxy Shazam
2500 pounds is literally nothing to Cole.

Like stated earlier he had a beam fall on him which easily weighed 10,000 pounds. He routinely jumps 20 story buildings and takes hits from trains like a champ.

When I said he slowed time with his precision shot I didn't mean he did it literally, hence why I put it in quotes, either way being able to see things moving in slow mo will greatly nullify any speed advantage said opponent might have.

Where did you get 10,000 pounds? I would like a source for that number. Train hits nearly kill Cole.

It greatly nullifies the speed of a normal human jog, a Pikachu Quick Attack makes Cole's run look like walking.

Go look up how much a gurter weighs, average is 5 tons. And train hits don't nearly kill Cole, it takes maybe a quarter health. It doesn't just nullify a human jog it allows Cole to accuratly fire on passing jets.

I'd like to point out that gameplay and cutscene durability often differ greatly, if a girder knocks him out, a Train /will/ kill him to death forever.

Originally posted by Foxy Shazam
Go look up how much a gurter weighs, average is 5 tons. And train hits don't nearly kill Cole, it takes maybe a quarter health. It doesn't just nullify a human jog it allows Cole to accuratly fire on passing jets.

well considering they vary on size I don't see that as an acurate measurement unless you can determine the measurements of the one that hit Cole & either way he got knocked out. Cole definatley can't see things in a speed that can keep up with something that can actually dodge lightning attacks.

With that gameplay being said, Pikachu can survive attacks from pokemon that alter time and space... so please might as well keep it from off of that. Like in gameplay Cole doesn't actually see people move that slow unless you use that one move I guess but cutscenes he can.

Originally posted by Foxy Shazam
Go look up how much a gurter weighs, average is 5 tons. And train hits don't nearly kill Cole, it takes maybe a quarter health. It doesn't just nullify a human jog it allows Cole to accuratly fire on passing jets.

The majority of air craft Cole fires at are the UAVs. The only mission that actually had real jets you aren't even meant to fire at, and they don't really fly that fast at all.

So yeah, Pikachu is still too fast for Cole to hit.

I didn't even think to ask, is this good Cole or evil?

Another thing I forgot to mention is Cole can just absorb all of Pikachu's energy like Pikachu is just a big generator. As far as I know Pikachu has no absorbtion abilities. Aaaaaand if Cole can manage to get his hands on Pikachu he can bioleech pikachu killing it instantly.

I don't think it matters. Either Cole still wins.

No, I brought that up earlier. Cole's only absorbed electricity from things that weren't in motion, Pikachu will not stand still.

He can't Bioleech Pikachu either, because Bioleeching only happens when the enemy is hurt. He also will never hit Pikachu.

Originally posted by Foxy Shazam
I didn't even think to ask, is this good Cole or evil?

Another thing I forgot to mention is Cole can just absorb all of Pikachu's energy like Pikachu is just a big generator. As far as I know Pikachu has no absorbtion abilities. Aaaaaand if Cole can manage to get his hands on Pikachu he can bioleech pikachu killing it instantly.

Cole has to stand and take the energy from a source, I've never seen him take directly it from a living source.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I don't think it matters. Either Cole still wins.

🤨

I think he typoed.

Lulz, I did. XD

Either Cole still loses*

He's taken energy from a living source, what do you think bioleech is?
As far as an enemy being down, why would that matter, all Cole does is touch their head and take their energy. What difference does it make if his target is moving or not? As long as Cole is in range of his target taking energy shouldn't be a problem.

Another thing that I just though of: there is an instance where Cole is electrocuted and is unharmed. In the beginning of the game right after the explosion Cole runs past an exposed power line and is electrocuted, he did not call forth this electricity, nor was he even prepared for it. He even says to himself that he should be dead after that. So it is very pheasable that Pikachu's electric attacks will have no affect on Cole.

He can also only sap energy when the target is within a decent range. Once they are out of that range, the connection between him and the source breaks. Pikachu is still too incredibly fast, Cole will not hit him with electricity, be able to suck out his electricity, or Bioleech him for that matter.

Cole had to knock his opponents down because they had to be weak enough for him to overpower. Pikachu will not become weak enough for him to overpower, nor will he ever get the chance.

Cole's powers were going crazy at that point. It is likely that his body was calling for the electricity on his own while he wasn't in control. But that's not stated, so you do have a good point. Of course, that electricity was nowhere near strong enough to change the weather like Pikachu's.

Over power them physically maybe, but I'm sure if it wasn't a gameplay mechanic if Cole could get his hands on a standing opponent I don't see why he wouldn't be able to over power them and bioleech them.

But if what your saying is true that Cole doesn't have to willingly call for electricity when he's hurt, his body will draw electricity to it on it's own. I don't really see why the voltage or strength of the electricity would matter, electricity is electricity no matter how strong or weak it is. Hell it might end up healing him faster because his body would require less of it.

Originally posted by Foxy Shazam
Over power them physically maybe, but I'm sure if it wasn't a gameplay mechanic if Cole could get his hands on a standing opponent I don't see why he wouldn't be able to over power them and bioleech them.

But if what your saying is true that Cole doesn't have to willingly call for electricity when he's hurt, his body will draw electricity to it on it's own. I don't really see why the voltage or strength of the electricity would matter, electricity is electricity no matter how strong or weak it is. Hell it might end up healing him faster because his body would require less of it.

Because it's never happened. He might be able to overpower a normal standing human, but the Reapers, First Sons, and Dust men are different, as is Pikachu.

Yes, but it's just a theory for one, and it's never been stated. Absorbing electricity is one of Cole's powers, and if a source is close enough then he might be able to relinquish his control over his powers and let his body call electricity to him on it's own. But still, its just a theory and has no basis at all.

We know that Cole can be damaged by electricity. If he couldn't he wouldn't have beaten Kessler which we know he did. He's only ever absorbed normal electricity that we use to power things like street lights. He's never absorbed electricity as powerful as Pikachu's.

Originally posted by Foxy Shazam
He's taken energy from a living source, what do you think bioleech is?
As far as an enemy being down, why would that matter, all Cole does is touch their head and take their energy. What difference does it make if his target is moving or not? As long as Cole is in range of his target taking energy shouldn't be a problem.

Another thing that I just though of: there is an instance where Cole is electrocuted and is unharmed. In the beginning of the game right after the explosion Cole runs past an exposed power line and is electrocuted, he did not call forth this electricity, nor was he even prepared for it. He even says to himself that he should be dead after that. So it is very pheasable that Pikachu's electric attacks will have no affect on Cole.

Getting electrocuited once, and Cole says he is lucky to be alive?

In that case, numerus fast lightning strikes would destroy Cole, end of story. Cole would be too slow to even try to 'obsorb' Pika's electricity, also, Pikachu has a skill called static, so if Cole touched Pika, he would be paralized.

Omg.. Who is this n00b with the terrible spelling? x_x

Electrocuted*
Numerous*
Absorb*
Paralyzed*

Thar we go.

Edit: Hey, modly people. This is my brother irl, I'm allowed to troll him. <.<

You missed the context and point of Cole saying he should be dead. It adds to the epic and surprise of suddenly discovering you have super powers.

Originally posted by Foxy Shazam
Over power them physically maybe, but I'm sure if it wasn't a gameplay mechanic if Cole could get his hands on a standing opponent I don't see why he wouldn't be able to over power them and bioleech them.

But if what your saying is true that Cole doesn't have to willingly call for electricity when he's hurt, his body will draw electricity to it on it's own. I don't really see why the voltage or strength of the electricity would matter, electricity is electricity no matter how strong or weak it is. Hell it might end up healing him faster because his body would require less of it.

electricity doesn't hurt him... then why would the final boss have electricity as power even?

electricity is electricity, seemed like Kesslers electricity was alot more powerful than Cole's. Cole's body draw in electricity??? I believe his power is more of Manipulating it, not generating.

He bioleeched people who he had beaten to near death with electrical attacks, they have some extra currents in them...

Cole McGrath won't do jackshit against Pikachu.
His electric attacks would just boost Pikachu's stats.
Cole McGrath gets toasted into a crisp.

Oh for the love of...

#1: Look, Cole actually can summon lightning from the sky, he does it near the beginning, and it's also his last powerup, so he can in fact "change the weather" with his powers.

#2: Kessler's lighting attack (He only has one) was very different from Cole's, remember he has cronomantic powers and is already leagues stronger than Coles is, Pikachu may or may not have strongerlightning capability, but it's nothing like cronomantics, and Cole has already shown magnetic control via reverse polarity in his wave attacks, Pikachu was vulnerable to magnetics last time I remembered, Magnetons and Magnemites made him sick didn't they?