Can Marvel take down Optimus Prime?

Started by Robtard8 pages
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I wonder what effect a lightning strike would have on Prime.

Probably wouldn't take him down, as he (or was it one of the others) ran into the power-lines in the first film, iirc.

It was Ratchet who fell in the power lines. I agree with you that Logan's not going to be cutting off anything bigger than maybe Prime's fingers, and that's pushing it.

Iron Man's arsenal going by movie feats are the tank buster missiles, the targeting mini missiles, and the repulsors. Personally, I don't think anything except the tank busters have even a shot at damaging Prime significantly. The unibeam is nothing more than his repulor concentrated into his chest piece for a slightly larger area of effect. The repulsors themselves are just concussion. They're not going to do a whole lot to Prime.

Which Green Goblin are we going by in this thread? Norman or Harry? Because there were definitely some differences in feats and such between them.

I don't really see the team coming out on top here, myself. 😐

You do remember Wolvie decapping a sentinel, correct?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You do remember Wolvie decapping a sentinel, correct?

To be fair that Sentinel who should've never even been in that movie had no durability feats.

How exactly did he go about it?

Originally posted by XanatosForever
How exactly did he go about it?

Colossus threw him into a part of the Danger Room that the viewer really couldn't see and then a few seconds later a head came crashing near the rest. It appeared to be a clean slice though, but as I said they have no feats.

Yeah, that's not enough to convince me that Logan could decap Prime. Not to mention it was the danger room, which is little more than a glorified holodeck for muties.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Yeah, that's not enough to convince me that Logan could decap Prime. Not to mention it was the danger room, which is little more than a glorified holodeck for muties.

Exactly.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
It was Ratchet who fell in the power lines. I agree with you that Logan's not going to be cutting off anything bigger than maybe Prime's fingers, and that's pushing it.

Iron Man's arsenal going by movie feats are the tank buster missiles, the targeting mini missiles, and the repulsors. Personally, I don't think anything except the tank busters have even a shot at damaging Prime significantly. The unibeam is nothing more than his repulor concentrated into his chest piece for a slightly larger area of effect. The repulsors themselves are just concussion. They're not going to do a whole lot to Prime.

Which Green Goblin are we going by in this thread? Norman or Harry? Because there were definitely some differences in feats and such between them.

I don't really see the team coming out on top here, myself. 😐

Logan could stab Prime through both eyes, while prime is frozen by Storm....for starters. (Cause we all know that Bayformers can freeze up and also that they can be destroyed with heat.
And repeated lightning strikes could cause Prime's temperature.

Ironman's tankbusters could then inflict whatever damage whereever Stark wants.

Depends where the repulsors are employed on Prime....doesnt it...?
That skinny hip/waist bit would be a good target, as thats where he is structurally thinnest/weakest inside his armour.

It really feels like you guys are assuming Prime is just standing in place while all this is happening. Say what you will about Bayformers' durability, they could move for being really big fecking robots. Stark, Storm, and any of the other fliers can only go so far without limiting their effectiveness, and Prime can certainly run and gun to keep from getting caught by webbing/rubber.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If that's true, then Prime be ****ed.

Yes. I checked the movie model against the tranform for the new Leader class prime toy, which matches the transform from the movie..
(Reviews and tranforms can be seen on youtube.
Definitely the entire chassis each leg splits and folds to cover the length of the underside of the truck. So his feets are the radiator grille at the front, all the way to the rear most part of the vehicle, where his hips are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC8qb-R6yjI
You can see this from 03:00 in the review.

This is why the wheels are configured the way they are on the legs on this version of Prime. so if he loses below the knees, as you hypothesised before, then Prime would lose the fornt rad grille the all under the hood front wheels, right up until the last third of the rear chassis in rig mode.

If Prime is hit by Ironman hardware whilst in truck mode, I think it'd be a safe bet that he would be crippled, due to the massive complexity of the transform.

Are others actually questioning whether or not Wolvie's claws will slice through Prime?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Are others actually questioning whether or not Wolvie's claws will slice through Prime?

The claws will cut into Prime, but the thickness of Prime's structure means Wolverine isn't going to be slicing off parts. Given enough hits, Wolverine could, but Prime isn't going to be standing there while Wolverine hacks at his thigh over and over.

Wolverine's claws are about a foot long; that's as deep as they can cut. Damaging joints or maybe getting to an eye (as Sadako said above) is his best bet before Prime puts him down and he has to heal and recoup for another attack.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Iron Man could clearly take Prime on his own, why is this even a debate?

Prime is too slow to hit him, he can't fly and he's vulnerable to advanced human weaponry.

Where were you when he had the Bumblebee vs Iron Man debate. Stark needed you. ❌

Has anyone factored in Thing's strength or Reed's intelligence?

Sadly, no. Most are tuirning this into another God awful "Wolverine solos" debates.

I think Thing might be able to do some damage. He's the second most durable here. Richards isn't to be underestimated ever.

Unless Richards has the means and time to make some 'anti-autobot' device, his intelligence here isn't much of a factor in this brawl. He probably wouldn't be stupid enough to try and wrap himself around Prime though, as he'll he sliced by the energy-blade.

Thing can only pound on Prime's feet, which would stack up in damage given time. Prime stepping on him isn't going to take him out and it's hard to judge what the energy blade and blaster would do to him.

Originally posted by Robtard
Thing can only pound on Prime's feet, which would stack up in damage given time.
How about jumping on him from a building roof top while Prime is pre-occupied with the other heroes? It's a stretch but totally possible.

Let's say Spidey lands on Prime's head and unleashes blow after blow. How much damage can he do?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Let's say Spidey lands on Prime's head and unleashes blow after blow. How much damage can he do?

Not as much as Thing. I'm trying to find that one strength feat he had from ROTSS. The one where that thing was falling because of Johnny's carelessness. I forgot exactly how big it was so I can't properly gauge his strength as of now.