Yoda and Anakin vs. Mace and Obi wan

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Yoda and Anakin vs. Mace and Obi wan

1. sabers
2. force
3. all out

I see Yoda beating Mace after a very long fight and then helping Anakin unless he has already beaten Obi-Wan.

Probably 1

Yoda>Windu

Anakin>Obi Wan

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Yoda>Windu

Anakin>Obi Wan

Yoda>Mace>>Anakin=Kenobi

12>3

12 = 4*3 > 3*3 < 10+2 = 12

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
12>3
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This one's hard to gauge. Many of the key techniques we know of each of these characters relies on emotional and situations which just aren't present in this hypothesis. If they're all Light Sided, Mace's Vaapad loses it's edge, and Anakin's increasing power isn't what it was during his Dark-tapping and Dark-immersion in the Dooku and Kenobi duels, respectively.

I'll give it to Team 1 though. Yoda can solo either Mace or Kenobi one-on-one, and Anakin can, at least, withstand a fight against Kenobi for a long time and Mace for a shorter period.

My vision: Anakin and Kenobi naturally target one another based on the hope of each's familiarity with the other being the key to victory, and Mace and Yoda naturally target each other due to the recognition that they're the two most powerful here, and thus each is the greater threat to the other.-----Anakin and Kenobi stalemate (though Light Side Anakin having the edge I feel), Yoda defeats Mace after a lengthy and arduous duel and helping Anakin take down Kenobi.

Alternatively, IF Mace can withstand Yoda long enough, he may able to wait out Yoda's Ataru immersion and finish him off when fatigue sets in.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
This one's hard to gauge. Many of the key techniques we know of each of these characters relies on emotional and situations which just aren't present in this hypothesis. If they're all Light Sided, Mace's Vaapad loses it's edge, and Anakin's increasing power isn't what it was during his Dark-tapping and Dark-immersion in the Dooku and Kenobi duels, respectively.

I'll give it to Team 1 though. Yoda can solo either Mace or Kenobi one-on-one, and Anakin can, at least, withstand a fight against Kenobi for a long time and Mace for a shorter period.

My vision: Anakin and Kenobi naturally target one another based on the hope of each's familiarity with the other being the key to victory, and Mace and Yoda naturally target each other due to the recognition that they're the two most powerful here, and thus each is the greater threat to the other.-----Anakin and Kenobi stalemate (though Light Side Anakin having the edge I feel), Yoda defeats Mace after a lengthy and arduous duel and helping Anakin take down Kenobi.

Alternatively, IF Mace can withstand Yoda long enough, he may able to wait out Yoda's Ataru immersion and finish him off when fatigue sets in.

While I agree with almost all of this, you think that Mace has more force reserves than Yoda?

Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
While I agree with almost all of this, you think that Mace has more force reserves than Yoda?
Yoda's size and advanced does work against him. It's why he utilizes Ataru when fighting opponents of Dooku's and Palpatine's caliber. Following the duel in the Senate chamber, people always wondered why Yoda didn't just get back up and keep fighting. His reserves were running low after prolonged use of Force-enhanced physical feats. While I feel that Palpatine gave Yoda a tougher run than Mace could, I think Mace possess the ability to survive Yoda's attack long enough for him to tire out. THough not enough to throw the match in Mace's favour.

Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
While I agree with almost all of this, you think that Mace has more force reserves than Yoda?
Yes. I think it's fair to assume Yoda was slightly winded after his duel with Tyranus on Geonosis. Mace on the other hand isn't borrowing energy from the Force to sustain his combat style.

I GREE WITH LUCIEN

Wait...

If Yoda faces Obi Wan and Anakin faces Mace, then team 2 has a good chance of winning. Obi Wan with his soresu could probably hold off Yoda for at least a few minutes, and Mace Windu could defeat Anakin much quicker due to Anakin's less defensive nature and especially if he could anger Anakin and make him use the DS, which would bring Vapaad into play.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Wait...

If Yoda faces Obi Wan and Anakin faces Mace, then team 2 has a good chance of winning. Obi Wan with his soresu could probably hold off Yoda for at least a few minutes, and Mace Windu could defeat Anakin much quicker due to Anakin's less defensive nature and especially if he could anger Anakin and make him use the DS, which would bring Vapaad into play.

Yes, but I do doubt the characters' choice of opponents in this one. It just doesn't feel likely that Kenobi and Yoda would go for each other first and not for Anakin and Mace, respectively.

But he does hold a valid point. If Kenobi could indefinately hold Anakin for 7 minutes or so in ROTS I see no reason why he could last 2 minutes tops vs Yoda. In that time Anakin would be dead.

Perhaps. But Yoda's highly acrobatic Ataru doesn't fight like Anakin's Shien. And remember, Kenobi lasted as long as he did against Anakin due mainly to his intimate knowledge of how Anakin fought, having spent years at his side in battle. The same can't be said for his relationship with Yoda.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Perhaps. But Yoda's highly acrobatic Ataru doesn't fight like Anakin's Shien. And remember, Kenobi lasted as long as he did against Anakin due mainly to his intimate knowledge of how Anakin fought, having spent years at his side in battle. The same can't be said for his relationship with Yoda.

Though that said Ataru was his first style and Qui Gon was also a practioner. Although I do agree that he won't hold Yoda of, that, long.

Obi-Wan style is Soresu, right? Well, that is a defensive form, and he has mastered a few more, Anakin would just fight him like on Mustafar. Mace would stand no chance against the 900 year old Grand Master of the Jedi ORder due to the fact that Yoda is the only one that can cathc force lightning on his hands, AND he would jump over him and stab Mace in the back, then Obi-Wan is screwed.