Re: Jason Vorhees in Arkham Asylum
Originally posted by PRAYERRUNJason kills them all Jason is supernatural these guys are not .
Jason has been placed in arkham asylum and, of course, he gets loose and has brutally murdered all the guards in the castle. Next, would be the inmates: namely,Scarecrow
The Riddler
Penguin
Two-face
Killer Croc
Bane
Poison Ivy
Faceless
Harley Quinn
The JokerThis isn't necissarily a guantlet, but it could be. All I want is for you to discuss what would or could happen in a scenario like this. Does Jason kill everybody in the asylum, or do the inmates take care of the hockey masked freak? YOU decide.
Originally posted by jasofisc
if you think Jason is compairble to grundy at all then you are sorley mistaken. and they deal with as in work with supernatural people all the time who are much greater then Jason.
Uh, I just said they can't be compared. 😕
And... like whom? How? and what with? Examples, now.
See, the problem with your argument Jasofisc is that you're falling into the same pot hole that most fall into in any prep thread. You're basically defecting to a "they'll find a way" argument without really supporting your case. The inmates in your mind are going to do the least likely things simply because they're survival dictates that they need to.
That's an extremely disengenuous argument to be making and one that's completely invalid until you bring proof to the table. Right now you're working off speculation to suppose what equiptment they might have, how they could noncholantly escape, or even that they'll know they're being attacked..
None of this is likely. They may use communication when they need to break out, is there any proof that they have a steady ready flow of such on any given day?
It's simple things like this you've failed to address and instead defect to "just because". There's no point in arguing against that kind of "logic".
Originally posted by jinzin
Uh.... yeah...Like stealth, teleportation and his wierd luck power, none of which Grundy'd use at his disposal. I'm not saying he's better than Grundy or would win in a fight, but you can't compare the two in THIS SCENARIO.
Grundy is like thousands of times stronger than Jason.
Now I'm sure you haven't read anything about Grundy.
Even comparing them in the first place is sheer stupidity.
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
LOLWUTGrundy is like thousands of times stronger than Jason.
Now I'm sure you haven't read anything about Grundy.
Even comparing them in the first place is sheer stupidity.
Uh... yeah I KNOW that... which is why I flat out said, "you can't compare the two"...... I'm typing in English as far as I'm aware so I'm really wondering what's so hard for you to understand here.
Originally posted by jinzin
See, the problem with your argument Jasofisc is that you're falling into the same pot hole that most fall into in any prep thread. You're basically defecting to a "they'll find a way" argument without really supporting your case. The inmates in your mind are going to do the least likely things simply because they're survival dictates that they need to.That's an extremely disengenuous argument to be making and one that's completely invalid until you bring proof to the table. Right now you're working off speculation to suppose what equiptment they might have, how they could noncholantly escape, or even that they'll know they're being attacked..
None of this is likely. They may use communication when they need to break out, is there any proof that they have a steady ready flow of such on any given day?
It's simple things like this you've failed to address and instead defect to "just because". There's no point in arguing against that kind of "logic".
several times when theirs a break out at arkam like when bane broke everyone out, the inmates have worked together one again another bit of evidince you ignore.
Originally posted by jinzin
And yes, Jason was still a human up through the end of 4. Yes, human's can take that kind of punishment, albiet they're extremely lucky... but hey, that's one of Jason's powers afterall.And NO.. he can't feel pain, now you're just being ridiculous.
once again i give evidence to the contrary and you just ignore it. Jason was attacking the girl and he stoped when she stabed him in the eye. he feels pain every now and then.
Originally posted by jinzin
Uh.... yeah...Like stealth, teleportation and his wierd luck power, none of which Grundy'd use at his disposal. I'm not saying he's better than Grundy or would win in a fight, but you can't compare the two in THIS SCENARIO.
you can't prove teleportation, his stealth is mainly because the kids are so wraped up in their crap that they don't notice him, and it's not luch so much as the others are stupid.
Originally posted by jinzin
Uh, I just said they can't be compared. 😕And... like whom? How? and what with? Examples, now.
Jason's greatest power is fear. it causes people to trip and make bad designtions. In freddy vs Jason we seen what happens when someone who is not afraid of jason fights him. when bane sees Jason rip off pegwin's head and shove it up scare crows bum he's not goint to underestmate him. Bane is a better fighter then freddy by a mile and tons better then jason. Their strength is compairable but Jason's duriblity is much higher then a non venom induced bane. Jason would most likely get the win on bane if it lasted a long time. however their is killer croc to deal with as well. when killer croc smells the blood from jason's victims he is going to come running. Since the bane and Jason fight will last a while it gives croc time to run over to them. then it's bane and killer croc vs Jason. both of them will easyly rip jason apart when they work together which is very likly against a foe who is slautering everyone in sight.
Originally posted by jasofiscYou're talking about mass breakouts or circumstances in which Jokers already prepared for something. That doesn't prove anything about this instance. Once again, your argument is based on unlikely circumstances.
i given examples of Joker using smily while in arkam sooooo that's an example just because you refuse to acnolege it doesn't make it not so. and killer croc doesn't need any equipment. All i've ever said about the others is that it's not all that unlikly that arkam keeps their equipment in arkam. Never said it would even do anything to Jason.several times when theirs a break out at arkam like when bane broke everyone out, the inmates have worked together one again another bit of evidince you ignore.
Originally posted by jasofisc
once again i give evidence to the contrary and you just ignore it. Jason was attacking the girl and he stoped when she stabed him in the eye. he feels pain every now and then.
because unlike you apparently, I know when to recognize PIS. Jason didn't feel most pain as a human, as a zombie the guy has just stood there and watched his arm be blown off without so much as a flinch, again you defect to the most unlikely of things to suite your argument.
Originally posted by jasofiscJason covered 8 stories in 2 seconds... unless you think he can fly, the guy teleported... it's even been a topic on the director's take on Jason at that point in time and him wanting to show that Jason wasn't just a masked killer but that he was supernatural. 😐
you can't prove teleportation, his stealth is mainly because the kids are so wraped up in their crap that they don't notice him, and it's not luch so much as the others are stupid.
Originally posted by jasofiscno, it was in response to you arbitrarily bringing Grundy up and stating he was superior to Jason as if that matters in this scenario.
well i'm pretty sure you can compair one zombie to another and say who is better but i understand what you mean now and they are quite differnt yes. Was this in refernce to what smiley would do on Jason, because if it affects grundy (which i don't know if it would) then it will affect Jason.
Originally posted by jasofiscSomeone who isn't afraid of him and has some degree of enhanced strength along with flat out superhuman durability and stamina. Any one of those blows Jason landed on Freddy (And he started the fight by running Freddy through a house) would have been deabilitating to fatal against anyone here except for Croc and Bane.
Jason's greatest power is fear. it causes people to trip and make bad designtions. In freddy vs Jason we seen what happens when someone who is not afraid of jason fights him.
There's been plenty of people who weren't afraid of Jason that ended up with the same fate as everyone else who faces him.
Originally posted by jasofiscAgain there you go just assuming things. Why would Jason kill two people right in front of Bane? Why would the fight last "a while", one shot from his machette is going to cripple Bane, while Bane could land a dozen blows and do nothing, speaking of which why would Jason face Bane head on instead of stealthing him like he does to most people, how is Croc out of his cell and able to get to the fight, why would he run TO a fight where he can smell BANE'S blood, y'know, the guy who beat him up twice... Again, just a bunch of wishful thinking by all appearances.
when bane sees Jason rip off pegwin's head and shove it up scare crows bum he's not goint to underestmate him. Bane is a better fighter then freddy by a mile and tons better then jason. Their strength is compairable but Jason's duriblity is much higher then a non venom induced bane. Jason would most likely get the win on bane if it lasted a long time. however their is killer croc to deal with as well. when killer croc smells the blood from jason's victims he is going to come running. Since the bane and Jason fight will last a while it gives croc time to run over to them. then it's bane and killer croc vs Jason. both of them will easyly rip jason apart when they work together which is very likly against a foe who is slautering everyone in sight.