Originally posted by RaidenDeadpool
Well I think Pyro was once found controlling Torch so I think he might be a little underestimated..Did Deadpool ever have the curse lifted?? I haven't read any comics in a long time..
Just like to point out that Hulk has bent and crushed adamantium before. The Dog O' War from Future Imperfect is a particularly good showing of this. Well, wait, the Dog O' War wasn't actually said to be adamantium though, was it?
BUT!!
They did say IT could crush adamantium, and that Hulk was more powerful probably means Hulk can crush adamantium. Not to mention other people, much weaker than Hulk, have crushed adamantium before. Wonder Man crushed Ultron's head once, and his strength is jack-f**k-all compared to Hulk's.
So adamantium is not indestructible. Plus, Punisher killed Wolverine in the What If just by throwing him into high voltage and frying Wolverine like an albino in Miami. I know What If's aren't canon, but it was shown as if it were a viable means of killing Wolvie. I don't REALLY buy it, but still. Of course Magneto could kill Wolverine whenever he wants. Human Torch. He might not be able to hurt the adamantium, but he could sure as Hell sterilize the bastard.
Originally posted by Master Court
Just like to point out that Hulk has bent and crushed adamantium before. The Dog O' War from Future Imperfect is a particularly good showing of this. Well, wait, the Dog O' War wasn't actually said to be adamantium though, was it?BUT!!
They did say IT could crush adamantium, and that Hulk was more powerful probably means Hulk can crush adamantium. Not to mention other people, much weaker than Hulk, have crushed adamantium before. Wonder Man crushed Ultron's head once, and his strength is jack-f**k-all compared to Hulk's.
So adamantium is not indestructible. Plus, Punisher killed Wolverine in the What If just by throwing him into high voltage and frying Wolverine like an albino in Miami. I know What If's aren't canon, but it was shown as if it were a viable means of killing Wolvie. I don't REALLY buy it, but still. Of course Magneto could kill Wolverine whenever he wants. Human Torch. He might not be able to hurt the adamantium, but he could sure as Hell sterilize the bastard.
The Dog O'War has no feats crushing adamantium, to my knowledge. Therefore, it can be said that Maestro was guilty of using hyperbole.
Wolverine's adamantium is unique, and the strongest around. Ultron and others have adamantium weapons and armor, but it's a much weaker imitation called secondary adamantium.
What If aren't reliable sources... especially the PIS-ridden "Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe".
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
The Dog O'War has no feats crushing adamantium, to my knowledge. Therefore, it can be said that Maestro was guilty of using hyperbole.Wolverine's adamantium is unique, and the strongest around. Ultron and others have adamantium weapons and armor, but it's a much weaker imitation called secondary adamantium.
What If aren't reliable sources... especially the PIS-ridden "Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe".
I know about secondary adamantium. Doesn't make a difference. And as for the Dog O' War, there's no proof that it CAN'T crush adamantium. So we can't say d**k about if Maestro was sh*t-talking or not. That's called assumption.
And I already acknowledged the frail logic of What If's. For example, Punisher killing Hulk by shooting Banner in the head. It's already been proven a million times that death-shots force Banner to flash-Hulk and heal up.
Wolverine is not immortal. There are SO many people that could kill him if they wanted to, regardless of what they say. Hulk is overkill in that department. Hell, Gambit could charge up all of Wolvie's molecules and atomize him. Even Kitty could phase him into the ground and kill him. Nightcrawler ports him over a volcano. Darwin adapts a mutant-power-nullifying power and then shoots Wolverine in the eye or in the gut until Wolverine drops dead. And as I said earlier, even Gorgon killed Wolverine with just a sword. Based on that, imagine if Rhino gored Wolverine upwards from the gut and behind the chest, and then started headbanging to scramble all of Wolverine's vital organs at once.
Hey, this is fun. ✅ Let's see, who else could kill Wolverine? So many good choices.
Originally posted by Master Court
I know about secondary adamantium. Doesn't make a difference. And as for the Dog O' War, there's no proof that it CAN'T crush adamantium. So we can't say d**k about if Maestro was sh*t-talking or not. That's called assumption.
As for the Dog O' War, if there's no proof that it CAN crush adamantium, then you can't say it can just because Maestro was talking shit. That's called assumption.
Originally posted by Master Court
Wolverine is not immortal. There are SO many people that could kill him if they wanted to, regardless of what they say. Hulk is overkill in that department. Hell, Gambit could charge up all of Wolvie's molecules and atomize him. Even Kitty could phase him into the ground and kill him. Nightcrawler ports him over a volcano. Darwin adapts a mutant-power-nullifying power and then shoots Wolverine in the eye or in the gut until Wolverine drops dead. And as I said earlier, even Gorgon killed Wolverine with just a sword. Based on that, imagine if Rhino gored Wolverine upwards from the gut and behind the chest, and then started headbanging to scramble all of Wolverine's vital organs at once.
Never said he was immortal, chief. With his Civil War healing factor and adamantium skeleton, he's pretty damned close.
Originally posted by Eternal Idolwho decides 1st of all if a book is cannon or not ? who ever came up with the cannon non cannon crap is stupid. they release the books for a reason for you to read and enjoy no different than a series book.
That was from a Marvel Adventures comic, and those aren't canon. 616 Pyro is long dead, and doesn't have such great feats.
Originally posted by chomperx9
who decides 1st of all if a book is cannon or not ? who ever came up with the cannon non cannon crap is stupid. they release the books for a reason for you to read and enjoy no different than a series book.
The entire 'Marvel Adventures' series is non-canon. Which means in particular that yeah, it's there for you to enjoy it. But it plays absolutely zero role in the real (616) Marvel Universe. It's some cute stories, and that's it. They're meant purely for entertainment, rather than to put together a real story.
It'd be like using a What If or an Elseworlds book and saying it's canon.
...Also, as for who decides if it's canon or not...I'm pretty sure that's Marvel's Editor-in-Chief who does that.
Originally posted by Badabing
Superman, Hulk, Black Adam, Caprain Marvel, Sentry, Juggernaut, Green Lantern, Thor, Beta Ray Bill. Silver Surfer, Dr. Fate, Dr. Strange, Rogue, Storm, Wonder Woman, Zatanna...BATMAN!!!
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
As for the Dog O' War, if there's no proof that it CAN crush adamantium, then you can't say it can just because Maestro was talking shit. That's called assumption.Never said he was immortal, chief. With his Civil War healing factor and adamantium skeleton, he's pretty damned close.
Goodness gracious.
Alright, I'll walk you through it. Hold my hand... HOLD MY HAND!!
Alright. I didn't say the Dog O' War COULD crush adamantium. And I'm sure you know what hyperbole is. You used the word, you know what it means. It means S**T-TALKING, brah! I don't know if your dictionaries define it like that, but that's what it is. Like Sentry is said to have the power of "a million exploding suns". Well, that's certainly s**t-talk, agreed? Agreed. However, there's no possible way to discern whether or not he actually DOES or does NOT.
The guy that drove the Dog O' War stated very confidently that it could crush adamantium in like six seconds or something. To me, it sounds more like Maestro designed a powerful weapon to patrol his city, rather than he simply sent out guys on metal dogs to scare everyone into thinking it was a powerful weapon. I'd be more inclined to believe the pilot of the Dog O' War and Maestro's intelligence over you simply saying "Can you prove it?" Further more, and again, I never said it COULD crush adamantium. I said if it can, then Hulk can.
And look, sergeant, I never said you said this or that. I said Wolverine's not immortal. He's not. There are so many people that could kill him, it's hilarious. And it doesn't even take top-tiers. Lots of standard street-grade superheroes could kill him. Villains, too.
Ok. You can let go of my hand now.
Dismissed.
LET GO OF MY HAND ALREADY! 😠