Odin/Thor Vs. Darkseid/Orion

[I did a search and checked the thread directory and couldn't find this match-up, surprisingly, so here we go. If this has been done before (I thought it had been but couldn't find it), please close/merge this thread, Digi, Tron, Bada or Pig.]

Stips:

- Each character is at their normal power levels. No arc specific iterations, i.e., no invoking Seven Soldiers or FC Darkseid or Rune King Thor or Odin in Destroyer Armor, etc. Base level for each.

- Battle takes place on a Jupiter sized planetoid in a neutral universe.

Match One: No powers/no weapons, hand to hand to hand combat.
Match Two: All powers and weapons (standard) at play.

Discuss.

Team One in both.

In the first match, New God team have skill on their side. But not the raw strength to do anything at all to Odin.

Second match...well, c'mon.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Team One in both.

In the first match, New God team have skill on their side. But not the raw strength to do anything at all to Odin.

Second match...well, c'mon.

Ump-bay

Originally posted by Enyalus
Team One in both.

In the first match, New God team have skill on their side. But not the raw strength to do anything at all to Odin.

Second match...well, c'mon.

His said no powers no weapons. Odin is weaker than Thor. Without the Odin Power amping him, Darkseid smashes him to bits. Team 2

Scenario 2 is up in the air.

Team one in a stomp in match 2.

Team one all day in both scenarios.

First Team 2
Second, quite possibly goes to team 1 or they destroy each other.

Originally posted by Allankles
His said no powers no weapons. Odin is weaker than Thor. Without the Odin Power amping him, Darkseid smashes him to bits. Team 2

Using no powers or weapons, Odin is still vastly stronger than Thor. And Darkseid. And Orion.

Odin still can't amp his physical stats in this fight he's at his base level whatever that is.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Odin still can't amp his physical stats in this fight he's at his base level whatever that is.

Uh ok

Orion solos

Originally posted by Enyalus
The Odinpower is Odin's life force. It's like removing the Power Cosmic from Surfer or the Omega Powers from Darkseid.

Using no powers or weapons, Odin is still vastly stronger than Thor. And Darkseid. And Orion.

I didn't say remove the Odin force from him I said he can't amp his base strength under the stips. I don't think Odin is stronger than his son at base, and Darkseid never amps his strength unless he's increasing mass.

I think DS has the most base physical strength of the guys here. Constantly shown as the physical superior of strongmen like Superman and Orion at their base. And taking on teams of heroes without any strength amping.

Not to mention he's beaten up on guys who've punked his son Orion too.

The Viking Gods ftw

Team one in both fights. Fight no.2 is a stomp.

Originally posted by manx422
Orion solos

Even without the odinpower Odin is still a beast.

There are scans in the respect thread of him fighting Mephisto in his own realm. He didn't have the odinpower while he did it i think.

I think they're basing Odin's base level on the marvel handbook stating that Odin is like a class 40 or something...

match 1: DS/Orion
match 2: Odin/Thor