Black Adam vs Superman

Originally posted by -Pr-
Except that everything he said was true.

They couldn't catch Prime. The only time "all of the heroes" (not just the Supers) caught up with him was during the time he was in battle. When Prime first took off, they admitted they couldn't catch up with him.

Prime wasn't at full power either...he was stripped of his solar suit and red sunlight took his power. If anything, all of them were pretty much powerless and he was double teamed.

I believe Supes would give Prime a fight regardless of that situation but I don't think that fight hold water.

Originally posted by carver9
They couldn't catch Prime. The only time "all of the heroes" (not just the Supers) caught up with him was during the time he was in battle. When Prime first took off, they admitted they couldn't catch up with him.

Prime wasn't at full power either...he was stripped of his solar suit and red sunlight took his power. If anything, all of them were pretty much powerless and he was double teamed.

I believe Supes would give Prime a fight regardless of that situation but I don't think that fight hold water.

They did catch up with him. It was shown on panel.

Superman was still being weakened by Kryptonite, while Prime wasn't, ergo Superman was weaker. Red Sun affects him too you know.

Originally posted by -Pr-
They did catch up with him. It was shown on panel.

Superman was still being weakened by Kryptonite, while Prime wasn't, ergo Superman was weaker. Red Sun affects him too you know.

Prime looked behind himself and they were nowhere in site. He dipped on them. Then while fighting against the Lanterns (no telling how long that fight lasted); that's when they caught up and sent him through a sun.

If my memory serves me right, didn't Prime bring up his powers being depleted during that fight?

can adam one shot supes

hmm

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Prime powers are gone.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/3sup4.jpg

Prime looks behind himself and no one is there.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/toomuchforgls.jpg

You're not listening.

Everything Juntai said is still true. Krypton is many lightyears away from Earth; to catch up at all still required FTL travel speed for it to have taken place in a few panels.

Nobody said Prime wasn't weakened, but Superman was more weakened, because even without his powers, Kryptonite is still lethal to him.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You're not listening.

Everything Juntai said is still true. Krypton is many lightyears away from Earth; to catch up at all still required FTL travel speed for it to have taken place in a few panels.

Nobody said Prime wasn't weakened, but Superman was more weakened, because even without his powers, Kryptonite is still lethal to him.

Sigh*

Originally posted by carver9
Sigh*

It's not my fault you're not paying attention.

Originally posted by guy222
can adam one shot supes

hmm

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uhuh

Originally posted by Juntai
Superman flew faster than light to catch Superboy Prime trying to make it to Oa to restart the Universe, and tackled him through a the remains of krypton and a red sun, then standing in a field of kryptonite that affected only himself and not Prime, he whipped his ass.

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What is this SBP vs adam? Adam didn't "no sell" prime's punches and was it brought up to impress anyone? Superman has fought three people close to PC power levels, pre-zero hour Mon-el who actually moved a star with bare hands, pocket dimension superboy who could actually time travel on his own power and SBP himself at full power level unlike in IC in LO3W. He defeated an eclipsed Mon while suffocating, stalemated superboy in a long drawn battle and actually restraining SBP (although prime was seemingly not resisting). Neither of these people ko'd superman either while they actually felt superman's punches unlike adam's punches which a weakened prime ignored and said they "tickled". Adam is at several disadvantages here
1. Superman's bio field is retconned so no bio field passing lightning amped punches. While his amped punches would still hurt superman it's no longer one shot or two shot scenario and superman's pain soaking capabilities and willpower is legendary, Gog once tortured him for 200 years with kryptonite just below the limit where it kills him and was unable to break him. He was beaten to pulp by all american boy, a doomsday level creature with kryptonite embedded throughout his body and ability to radiate knite radiation and was still coherent enough after two issues of beating. So, does anybody think that adam is stronger than a doomsday level character or magic hurts superman more than kryptonite?
2. Adam can't fight at high speeds for too long. Jay noted that at mach 500 his muscles started to tear and he was begining to tire while superman was neck to neck with Jay just shy of light speed where Jay himself started to tire.
3. While adam is known for his ferocity, no one matches the ferocity of an out of control, mad with grief superman. In day of judgement when it seemed superman was going out of control, captain marvel while holding spear of destiny said "Does anybody has kryptonite handy". In camelot falls entire JSA along with hal and diana showed up to restrain him. When batman went out of control with superman's powers they sent a team consisting of two elite gls (hal and john), diana, firestorm, supergirl, hawkgirl and red tornado and batman said they were still no match for him.
3. Adam has no healing factor and is NOT more durable than superman. When despero knocked out superman and cap he rammed their heads together. If cap was more durable than superman than he wouldn't have been ko'd.
4. Superman has more ranged attacks to hurt and stall adam like HV, freeze breath and sonic scream while adam's lightning attack would take time and can be easily avoided.
5. Superman has made a career beating people stronger, faster and more durable than himself, when was the last time adam defeated someone stronger and more durable than him?
Based on all this superman 7/10.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's not my fault you're not paying attention.

uhuh

one editor said that not me

Originally posted by abhilegend
What is this SBP vs adam? Adam didn't "no sell" prime's punches and was it brought up to impress anyone? Superman has fought three people close to PC power levels, pre-zero hour Mon-el who actually moved a star with bare hands, pocket dimension superboy who could actually time travel on his own power and SBP himself at full power level unlike in IC in LO3W. He defeated an eclipsed Mon while suffocating, stalemated superboy in a long drawn battle and actually restraining SBP (although prime was seemingly not resisting). Neither of these people ko'd superman either while they actually felt superman's punches unlike adam's punches which a weakened prime ignored and said they "tickled". Adam is at several disadvantages here
1. Superman's bio field is retconned so no bio field passing lightning amped punches. While his amped punches would still hurt superman it's no longer one shot or two shot scenario and superman's pain soaking capabilities and willpower is legendary, Gog once tortured him for 200 years with kryptonite just below the limit where it kills him and was unable to break him. He was beaten to pulp by all american boy, a doomsday level creature with kryptonite embedded throughout his body and ability to radiate knite radiation and was still coherent enough after two issues of beating. So, does anybody think that adam is stronger than a doomsday level character or magic hurts superman more than kryptonite?
2. Adam can't fight at high speeds for too long. Jay noted that at mach 500 his muscles started to tear and he was begining to tire while superman was neck to neck with Jay just shy of light speed where Jay himself started to tire.
3. While adam is known for his ferocity, no one matches the ferocity of an out of control, mad with grief superman. In day of judgement when it seemed superman was going out of control, captain marvel while holding spear of destiny said "Does anybody has kryptonite handy". In camelot falls entire JSA along with hal and diana showed up to restrain him. When batman went out of control with superman's powers they sent a team consisting of two elite gls (hal and john), diana, firestorm, supergirl, hawkgirl and red tornado and batman said they were still no match for him.
3. Adam has no healing factor and is NOT more durable than superman. When despero knocked out superman and cap he rammed their heads together. If cap was more durable than superman than he wouldn't have been ko'd.
4. Superman has more ranged attacks to hurt and stall adam like HV, freeze breath and sonic scream while adam's lightning attack would take time and can be easily avoided.
5. Superman has made a career beating people stronger, faster and more durable than himself, when was the last time adam defeated someone stronger and more durable than him?
Based on all this superman 7/10.

1. Magic still harms Superman and is still shown and mentioned to be an exploitable weakness of his.

2. Jay was also stealing Black Adam's speed to help him attain the level of speed he needed. That was also Black Adam running alongside Jay, not flying.

3. WWIII?

3-2. Yes, he does possess a healing factor. His lightning can regenerate him and his damage soak is impressive. He's definitely comparable to Superman in these aspects.

4. Black Adam can amp his fists with magical lightning, as well as coat his entire body in it, such as when he tackled Spectre like a lightning torpedo. It doesn't take hardly any time at all for either of those, and he can do those without shouting "Shazam!".

5. Usually with context, amps, or plot device if they were truly more powerful across the board than him.

Superman winning more than 6/10 is really pushing it.

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1. what do you call not being damaged By a punch? A No Sold.
2. black adam flew across the universe in 10,000 years non stop or rest , black adam getting tired is PIS
3. Im pretty sure adam has a healing factor or else any damage would be permanent, and I never argued he was more durable
4. The Marvels lighting can tag FLASH, superman is not doging anything

Tagging Flash is PIS, as it's been well established Cap can avoid his own lightning when he uses it as a weapon. And Black Adam was the character who coined that attack, using it against Cap in the pre crisis era to force a change back into Billy.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
1. Magic still harms Superman and is still shown and mentioned to be an exploitable weakness of his.

2. Jay was also stealing Black Adam's speed to help him attain the level of speed he needed. That was also Black Adam running alongside Jay, not flying.

3. WWIII?

3-2. Yes, he does possess a healing factor. His lightning can regenerate him and his damage soak is impressive. He's definitely comparable to Superman in these aspects.

4. Black Adam can amp his fists with magical lightning, as well as coat his entire body in it, such as when he tackled Spectre like a lightning torpedo. It doesn't take hardly any time at all for either of those, and he can do those without shouting "Shazam!".

5. Usually with context, amps, or plot device if they were truly more powerful across the board than him.

Superman winning more than 6/10 is really pushing it.

Originally posted by cdtm
Tagging Flash is PIS, as it's been well established Cap can avoid his own lightning when he uses it as a weapon. And Black Adam was the character who coined that attack, using it against Cap in the pre crisis era to force a change back into Billy.

Superman wins using only HV.

Originally posted by Bentley
Superman wins using only HV.

The HV has had some insane showings over the years.

But Superman also limits it a lot, so I doubt he'll use a full power attack, in character.