Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i generally believe both captain marvel and black adam>>>superman based on high end feats
but supes only stalemates these guys because he is more popular or what not
You must not have seen Superman's high end feats. Those feats are more than twice greater than anything the Shazam's have ever done.
Superman stalemates those guys (or barely wins) is because of his mental blocks which holds him back. During fights, if he is losing, those blocks start to come off. Superman's power is not only sun based but psionic based.
Originally posted by The PictBA knocked a pretty far by a steel girder which didn't even dent. Poor durability showing for WW3 BA 😖hifty:
We have to go by feats. That's part of the on panel evidence provided by the comics that we base our arguments on. Otherwise we're just making things up.
ba took a hit from from SBP was knocked for miles yet came to un scathed. Your durability remarks is retarded at best.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
Superman is faster in travel and combat speed. He also has many more powers and uses of powers.A vibrating hand to the skull should do the trick. Or an imp.
Travel speed, I agree, combat speed, they are even. Everything else is even also and going by showing, Black Adam has the edge since he did take on the entire team of JSA.
Anyways, I give this to Superman 6/10 due to heat vision.
I'm thinking more along the lines of a 6/10 split to Adam.
Supermans taken it to the entire JLA too, and he knows a thing or two about fighting. Bussiek in Trinity really upped Supermans skill stock by having him attack Owlman to make Ultrawoman show concern, to make Ultraman in his jealous anger get careless to carry him into the ocean where he's open to a kidney punch making him gulp in water, and making his muscles lock up with pressure point jabs.
Yes, pressure point jabs. It's a good scene, and one more piece of ammo to use against the "Superman is a dumb brawling brick" crowd.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Well, he's right about that one item, though. Maybe you should retract?
His implication isn't right on that one item though. Superman has moved masses as large or larger than a planet without pulling help though.
In the one where there are 3 of them I proved that Superman was exerting over 50 Earth weights of force.
So it doesn't matter if he was getting help pulling. He still exerted more than 50 Earth weights of force. And he still has feats where he didn't receive any pulling help.
Originally posted by h1a8
His implication isn't right on that one item though. Superman has moved masses as large or larger than a planet without pulling help though.In the one where there are 3 of them I proved that Superman was exerting over 50 Earth weights of force.
So it doesn't matter if he was getting help pulling. He still exerted more than 50 Earth weights of force. And he still has feats where he didn't receive any pulling help.
It DOES matter. Superman never moved a planet without help before. You making claims on the latter when you have no proof of it damages your credibility. Though, I might have to concede the fact that you don't really care if you have ANY credibility. You either need to admit that you erred in that unsubstantiated claim or admit that ppl should just stop believing anything you say/post. Either is your choice.
My opinion is that you should just man up and retract that statement so that you can move on and TRY to prove the things that DO matter in this debate.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210I didn't error idiot. I spoke the truth. Either you didn't understand the english or you don't believe it. If you don't believe it then say "Scans please". But don't accuse someone of telling a mistruth when you don't know for sure.
It DOES matter. Superman never moved a planet without help before. You making claims on the latter when you have no proof of it damages your credibility. Though, I might have to concede the fact that you don't really care if you have ANY credibility. You either need to admit that you erred in that unsubstantiated claim or admit that ppl should just stop believing anything you say/post. Either is your choice.My opinion is that you should just man up and retract that statement so that you can move on and TRY to prove the things that DO matter in this debate.
If I said Superman moved a planet without pulling help then either I'm lying or not. I know that most of us here are comic experts and have seen just about all of the most popular characters best feats. So why would I say such a thing?
Because it is true.
Superman pulled the Earth against Starbreaker by himself. GL didn't help in the PULLING. I proved this a year ago. Also He turned the wheels of mageddon by himself. He moved objects the size of moons by himself.
This is what I said
Superman moving planets, objects bigger than planets, flying to other galaxies in moments, etc. Superman's power is part psionic you know.
Where is the error?