Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I'm not ignoring it, not that you haven't ignored a couple of my posts in this thread! >(But yeah, no. The Flash is way faster than Sonic.
Well then prove Mario can react to him. Once again Flash attacking Batman is like Sonic attacking Mario. Mario is no Deathstroke.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteBowser, Bowser Jr., their ship, Peach, her castle, as well as many nearby planetoids also survived the same event without so much as a scratch. It doesn't make sense to believe that all these things have galaxy-busting durability. Especially since we've consistently seen lava kill Mario and Bowser instantly.
I'd like to point out Mario survived galaxy wide catastrophe at the end of Mario Galaxy. -.o;
And Sonic is not equal to the Flash. Flash is faster. Neither is Mario equal to Batman. Mario has strength that Batman lacks. Sonic could likely blitz Mario, but it isn't a stomp. Mario could land a punch or a fireball here or there. Eggman has done it.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixI understand your point. I was just pointing out that the comparison is flawed.
I never said Flash=Sonic. Mario can't react to Sonic, saying he could is like saying Batman could react to Flash, and strength isn't going to help you react to either of them. That is my point.
Eggman has hit Sonic, so while Sonic could likely outspeed Mario much of the time, Mario could land a hit every now and again. It isn't a stomp.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Well then prove Mario can react to him. Once again Flash attacking Batman is like Sonic attacking Mario. Mario is no Deathstroke.
Working with it a bit.
And no, it's not at all. Sonic is not close to the Flash in terms of speed. And we're still talking about Sonic physicly grabbign a hold of Mario, and throwing him. That takes much longer than a punch.
And where's the imaginary line in an undefined battlefield? It's not going to conveniently be a ten by ten circle to allow Sonic an easy win.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Working with it a bit.And no, it's not at all. Sonic is not close to the Flash in terms of speed. And we're still talking about Sonic physicly grabbign a hold of Mario, and throwing him. That takes much longer than a punch.
And where's the imaginary line in an undefined battlefield? It's not going to conveniently be a ten by ten circle to allow Sonic an easy win.
See chili dog incident. You're basically saying Mario can punch faster than Sonic can run, and throw.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
I understand your point. I was just pointing out that the comparison is flawed.Eggman has hit Sonic, so while Sonic could likely outspeed Mario much of the time, Mario could land a hit every now and again. It isn't a stomp.
Eggman has experience dealing with Sonic, and he is much smarter than Mario.
A chili dog doesn't actually fall very fast, at all. So that doesn't make Sonic any faster than he already was. -shrug-
I'm saying Mario can punch faster than Sonic can grab him, lift hhim, and throw him, yes. That'd take even Sonic a split second to do, atleast. All Mario really has to do is lash out in any random way he feels like. Say, spinning, or halting horizontal momentum with a ground pound.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Eggman's also in a lot worse physical shape than Mario. |: He's not even close to a peak human. If he can land a hit, ever, so can Mario.
You don't have to be in shape to operate a machine. Eggman has never physically touched Sonic with his own fists to my knowledge.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
A chili dog doesn't actually fall very fast, at all. So that doesn't make Sonic any faster than he already was. -shrug-I'm saying Mario can punch faster than Sonic can grab him, lift hhim, and throw him, yes. That'd take even Sonic a split second to do, atleast. All Mario really has to do is lash out in any random way he feels like. Say, spinning, or halting horizontal momentum with a ground pound.
So you're an expert in the field of chili dogs? Once again prove Mario has that type of reaction skills.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteTrue. We're not talking about intellect. Eggman's reflexes allowed him to tag Sonic, at least on occasion. Mario can do the same, preventing this from being a stomp.
Eggman's also in a lot worse physical shape than Mario. |: He's not even close to a peak human. If he can land a hit, ever, so can Mario.
IMO, Mario is the underdog here and Sonic's speed is a big hurdle, but with a couple of his powers, Mario could pull some wins. In a standard fight, Sonic would probably take a majority.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixBut he has stayed ahead of Sonic in a footrace in Sonic 3 and Knuckles and downright outran him in Sonic 2. That seems incredibly ridiculous, but there it is.
You don't have to be in shape to operate a machine. Eggman has never physically touched Sonic with his own fists to my knowledge.
The earliest I remember Mario being able to perform any variation of ground pound was in SMW, with the cape power up. After taking flight, he was able to dive to the ground, causing the entire screen to shudder and making various enemies staggered. In later incarnations, he can just leap into the air and then flip once into a rump stomp, which I'm pretty sure caused tremors if he hit the ground instead of an enemy.
I'm hesitant to mention Mario's hammer, but it really has been a part of his arsenal for a quite a while now, and he could just as easily ground pound with it instead of his body.
Originally posted by XanatosForeverI know a variation of the ground pound from New Super Mario Bros. I'll have to check to see if it causes a quake. I'm sure the "Cape Bomb" would knock Sonic off his feet. It might even damage him a bit; the dive bomb with the cape was a powerful move!
The earliest I remember Mario being able to perform any variation of ground pound was in SMW, with the cape power up. After taking flight, he was able to dive to the ground, causing the entire screen to shudder and making various enemies staggered. In later incarnations, he can just leap into the air and then flip once into a rump stomp, which I'm pretty sure caused tremors if he hit the ground instead of an enemy.I'm hesitant to mention Mario's hammer, but it really has been a part of his arsenal for a quite a while now, and he could just as easily ground pound with it instead of his body.