Ummm, dude, Yoda and Mace could kill Sidious, due to the fact of Yoda fighting him to an appeared standstill, (he saw a clear vision of the future while deflecting the lightning and knew he could risk dying there. He knew he was gonna train Luke.) so he left. Mace beat Sidious in pure saber combat, though he used the force, but Sidious would lose that fight. Hes not all powerful.
Originally posted by Incanus
Ummm, dude, Yoda and Mace could kill Sidious, due to the fact of Yoda fighting him to an appeared standstill, (he saw a clear vision of the future while deflecting the lightning and knew he could risk dying there. He knew he was gonna train Luke.) so he left. Mace beat Sidious in pure saber combat, though he used the force, but Sidious would lose that fight. Hes not all powerful.
lol, i'm surprised Gideon hasn't gotten to you yet. He convinced me. DE sidious is on a WHOLE different level than ROTS sidious. DE sidious is the single strongest user on the entire dark side. (ever read the DE comics?)
Agreed that the jedi duo OWN ROTS sidious. But mace and yoda never fought the DE version of Sidious.
Yeah, but im harder to convert, i guess, as I actually think about what I know of the characters. Will Sidious create a wormhole to kill them? No. He would kill himself. Can they deflect lightning, HELL YEAH. Vapaad would keep Mace up, or he would get pwned. Yoda would still have a fair chance. Combining the two is just the death of Sidious.
Originally posted by Incanus
Yeah, but im harder to convert, i guess, as I actually think about what I know of the characters. Will Sidious create a wormhole to kill them? No. He would kill himself. Can they deflect lightning, HELL YEAH. Vapaad would keep Mace up, or he would get pwned. Yoda would still have a fair chance. Combining the two is just the death of Sidious.
Originally posted by Incanus
Uh, decribe this inst-kill, as if it involes A. lightning, or B. Nihilus, then this is my answer: They can absorb/deflect lightning. and B. Sidious is not Nihilus therefore he has no planet killing drain.
Originally posted by Incanus
Ok, so he kill Noephytes, that automatically means he can do it to the 2 most powerful jedi in the order?
Originally posted by truejedi
I don't find DE sids a force God like they paint FOTJ luke.
When Luke blunts the sensitivity of ten thousand Jedi across a galaxy for decades, conjures a storm that can obliterate a fleet of state of the art ships "with a mere thought," alters the alignment of planets without being present while simultaneously enslaving/draining the billions of inhabitants, and lastly serves as a focusing mechanism for the dark side of the Force, give me a jingle.
You could make a fine case for Skywalker beating Sidious in a fight, but as far as command of the Force is concerned?
It's not even close.
Yoda would have a chance,
Right. And he wouldn't against the guy who has problems beating droidekas or random monks on distant worlds?
Originally posted by GideonYou could make a fine case for Skywalker beating Sidious in a fight, but as far as command of the Force is concerned?
It's not even close.
Originally posted by Gideon
When Luke blunts the sensitivity of ten thousand Jedi across a galaxy for decades, conjures a storm that can obliterate a fleet of state of the art ships "with a mere thought," alters the alignment of planets without being present while simultaneously enslaving/draining the billions of inhabitants, and lastly serves as a focusing mechanism for the dark side of the Force, give me a jingle.You could make a fine case for Skywalker beating Sidious in a fight, but as far as command of the Force is concerned?
It's not even close.
Luke beats Sidious.
Originally posted by Gideon
When Luke blunts the sensitivity of ten thousand Jedi across a galaxy for decades, conjures a storm that can obliterate a fleet of state of the art ships "with a mere thought," alters the alignment of planets without being present while simultaneously enslaving/draining the billions of inhabitants, and lastly serves as a focusing mechanism for the dark side of the Force, give me a jingle.
I can't see Luke ever wanting to do any of that stuff, so whats the point of saying it?
Originally posted by Gideon
Right. And he wouldn't against the guy who has problems beating droidekas or random monks on distant worlds?
Or maybe just getting picked up and thrown into oblivion like a bit*h.
Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Luke beats Sidious.
Originally posted by Gideon
You could make a fine case for Skywalker beating Sidious in a fight, but as far as command of the Force is concerned?It's not even close.
Don't make me repeat myself. Or I'll have to go all Axl Rose on your ass, Slash.
Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
I can't see Luke ever wanting to do any of that stuff, so whats the point of saying it?
Because in order to truly compare their respective Force mastery, we have to make a comparison of feats. The skills that Palpatine was capable of are truly mindboggling in scale and scope.
Luke? Not really.
Or maybe just getting picked up and thrown into oblivion like a bit*h.
I love a man with no regard for context. <3
Where to begin to punish you for your stupidityinsolence? We could begin with the crap with Vader not being a duel. We could also begin with even though it wasn't a duel, he still killed his attacker. Or we could say that it was a preordained movement, the fulfillment of a prophecy. Or the fact that the only b*tch in the scenario was Luke "I heart he fetal position!" Skywalker, who is incidentally the one we're comparing him to. Or, lastly, we could slip into the conversation casually that Palpatine returned from the dead stronger than ever.
You're wasting your time (and more importantly my time), child. Either make an argument or accept your crushing defeat.
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I'll give you time. Meanwhile, I had to wake up extra early to go help my retarded sister move into her new apartment.
I'll check in later. Cya!
Originally posted by Gideon
When Luke blunts the sensitivity of ten thousand Jedi across a galaxy for decades,
Which Sidious hasn't done...
conjures a storm that can obliterate a fleet of state of the art ships "with a mere thought,"
Which Sidious couldn't completely control...
alters the alignment of planets without being present while simultaneously enslaving/draining the billions of inhabitants,
Because planets have "alignments" nowadays, dependant on the personal power of the person who "caused" them...
and lastly serves as a focusing mechanism for the dark side of the Force, give me a jingle.
Welcome to the wonderful world of hyperboles in written fiction.
You could make a fine case for Skywalker beating Sidious in a fight, but as far as command of the Force is concerned?It's not even close.
Because things that look impressive must be impressive (in terms of power levels involved), meaning that every illusionist on a fair must be godlike.
Right. And he wouldn't against the guy who has problems beating droidekas or random monks on distant worlds?
Because Sidious would have no problems with...
Wait a second? Last time I checked, I saw Jedi Masters running away from Droidekas before figuring out their weakness (force pushing them against stable objects to short-circuit the shielding). And to note that somebody had problems with a certain enemy of unknown power, also doesn't serve as argument.
At least Luke managed not to be shoved into a reactor shaft by a crippled cyborg, get killed by his own force techniques or be shot to death by a random smuggler. Negative-Feat-Wars for teh win!