Originally posted by Parmaniac
yeah I agree with this, I'm not 100% sure about the replicas, are these as powerful as the originals? I assume yes
Originally posted by ParmaniacThe Monitors shield protected it that's all. So yes Universal destroying blast.
was it really a universe destroying attack? I mean after this we saw a Monitor, a plant standing on solid ground und a sun shining down on them, so how can a whole universe got destroyed?Another Thing is we (at this point) have absolutely no clue how many and what kind of beeings were absorbed by AO. I guess (maybe I'm wrong) the constructs/replicas AO creates are as powerful as the originals were, cause it says Target consumed.
Originally posted by john16
Someone should put up all the Larfleeze stuff (Not the whole issues) so its easier to work out what he can actually do.
agreed (maybe a respect thread)
and maybe we should wait a bit till we see some real feats that actually shows how his powers are working. If they work the way that I think their doing he's definately able to beat prime but I have no proof for this at this point otherwise noone could really proof me wrong
Originally posted by xJLxKingAre you kidding? He will annihilate these constructs and then make his way to Larfleeze. Superman is nothing to this guy. Larfleeze gets pwned as Prime gets his hands on him.
I am not going to argue that. That is true!!! but I do think that prime won't go and attack the wielder. I am sure Larfleeze can make hundreds if not thousands of constructs that will be attack Prime. AO can then hide and keep using his powers.
Originally posted by xJLxKingWhat?
Don't use that ABC logic!
A machine gun can kill hundreds of weaponless soldiers, but a tank might not be able to so do as easily. Does that mean Machine gun> tank? Of course not. It just depends on the situation.Prime's strength, speed, and durability was greater then Monarch. However, Monarch had better energy attack( they were stronger too). Prime won because he was stronger, & more durable.
The others you mentioned weren't even fight(Mxy).
AM was attacked from the back. He was attacked by 11 guardians and a huge amount of GL. Then he gets stabbed in the back by one of his own soldiers.
The bulk of Prime's durability to hang with Monarch was when he was amped. Prime imo couldn't have taken that kind of damage under his normal powerset. His last ditch effort was to breach the suit and it worked.
The point is Prime has taken on more powerful beings than Larfleeze. Point blank. There is no spin Prime is badder than Larfleeze.
Originally posted by xJLxKingYou can't eliminate greed but you can eliminate Larfleeze. How don't you get this? How?
That's where you are wrong. AO will be able to absorb those attacks (Freeze breath, and HV). Also, remember what the Guardians said. You can't get rid of greed. It's always there!!
Are you kidding? He will annihilate these constructs and then make his way to Larfleeze. Superman is nothing to this guy. Larfleeze gets pwned as Prime gets his hands on him.
What? The bulk of Prime's durability to hang with Monarch was when he was amped. Prime imo couldn't have taken that kind of damage under his normal powerset. His last ditch effort was to breach the suit and it worked. The point is Prime has taken on more powerful beings than Larfleeze. Point blank. There is no spin Prime is badder than Larfleeze
You can't eliminate greed but you can eliminate Larfleeze. How don't you get this? How?
Originally posted by xJLxKingOk, and prime can fly at the speed of light. Hal Jordan sure seemed to get right on top of Larfleeze. Prime met the guy briefly, killed his friends easily, and broke his arm. Larfleeze was busy making him deals to get his hands on a blue ring.
That's all your opinion. Larfleeze has so much power stored in his lantern. Centuries worth of energy. He'll keep making constructs. Did you see the last construct he made against the guardians + all other lanterns? That wasn't a regular construct.What don't you get? Prime was only hurt once. That's all there was. He only said "that really hurt", but no serious injuries. not only that, but his muscles, his body and his powers were already being drained. Again, AO is as threatening as Parallax. He would easily be able to fight Monarch because Monarch is more of a Energy type rather then physical.
yeah, where do you think AO is going to be doing? Screaming, "Hey dumbass, I am over here!" Of course not!! He can be in a totally different galaxy and still have his constructs somewhere else.
Prime was enhanced in every way with the guardian amp. Monarch gave him a little taste and was openly mocking him not taking him as seriously as he should have at the time. It cost him as Prime tore open his suit. The point is he took all the damage from Monarch while he was amped save the blast which is ambiguous either way.
This battle has them start out how many feet/meters away. It's in the rules. We don't start fights galaxies away. Again, you can't eliminate greed but you can eliminate Larfleeze. It's common sense.
Originally posted by quanchi112He pretty much lost his amp when he took the big blast.
Are you kidding? He will annihilate these constructs and then make his way to Larfleeze. Superman is nothing to this guy. Larfleeze gets pwned as Prime gets his hands on him.What?
The bulk of Prime's durability to hang with Monarch was when he was amped. Prime imo couldn't have taken that kind of damage under his normal powerset. His last ditch effort was to breach the suit and it worked.
The point is Prime has taken on more powerful beings than Larfleeze. Point blank. There is no spin Prime is badder than Larfleeze. You can't eliminate greed but you can eliminate Larfleeze. How don't you get this? How?
Ok, and prime can fly at the speed of light. Hal Jordan sure seemed to get right on top of Larfleeze. Prime met the guy briefly, killed his friends easily, and broke his arm. Larfleeze was busy making him deals to get his hands on a blue ring.'
Prime was enhanced in every way with the guardian amp. Monarch gave him a little taste and was openly mocking him not taking him as seriously as he should have at the time. It cost him as Prime tore open his suit. The point is he took all the damage from Monarch while he was amped save the blast which is ambiguous either way.
This battle has them start out how many feet/meters away. It's in the rules. We don't start fights galaxies away. Again, you can't eliminate greed but you can eliminate Larfleeze. It's common sense
Originally posted by john16He found Prime floating, but we don't know actually when this was. It was dark and it doesn't make much sense for him to use Prime after tanking the blast ass opposed to before.
It was stated he didn't know. He found Prime floating, aka after the blast. Can't ignore what;s in the comics.
Originally posted by iceman24567Iyo. It's ambigious. The Monitor didn't sense his presence thereafter.
Prime tanked the blast we were given the impression he did.
Originally posted by thanos-primeI think so. The guy is durable but Superboy can scar him for life. Him being really hurt with the amp shows me that without it in all likelihood he wouldn't last long.
Just because prime had the guardian amp when he fought monarch doesn't mean he needed it prior to the monarch incident we had seen no limit to primes durability so there is no reason to think he need it.
Originally posted by xJLxKingYes, I know exactly what happened. I know Larfleeze can multitask and fight on different fronts at the same time. I also know that Prime can take out hal in a second while Larfleeze didn't even despite Hal's actions.
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Do you even remember what happened? AO wasn't even fighting him. All AO wanted was his ring. They were negotiating. Not only that, but AO was fighting the guardians and many other lanterns. As soon as the fight actually started between Hal+Corps and AO, AO easily overwhelmed them. They were all running for their lives. Hal then wasted all his powers from the blue+green ring to defeat one construct that AO created.Yeah, he was an adult. All his power were enhanced, but monarch was mocking him, but he wasn't playing with him. Monarch did underestimate him.
Why don't the guardians eliminate AO if it so easy. He can make huge amount of constructs that will hold anybody down till he leaves
He wasn't an adult hew was amped and called himself Superman Prime mainly due to the lawsuit against the usage of the word superboy. He was still the same arrogant manboy. Monarch thought he was defeated already and then underestimated his strength which cost him the matchup.
Because the guardians would rather deal with him ass opposed to someone else. I already put up a scan. Do you even read these comics?
Yes, I know exactly what happened. I know Larfleeze can multitask and fight on different fronts at the same time. I also know that Prime can take out hal in a second while Larfleeze didn't even despite Hal's actions.
He wasn't an adult hew was amped and called himself Superman Prime mainly due to the lawsuit against the usage of the word superboy. He was still the same arrogant manboy. Monarch thought he was defeated already and then underestimated his strength which cost him the matchup.
Because the guardians would rather deal with him ass opposed to someone else. I already put up a scan. Do you even read these comics?
Originally posted by xJLxKingHal attacked him and then Larfleeze attacked him. At first they had a deal and then things progressed. Reread the comic.
What? AO wasn't fighting Hal. They were negotiating. AO could have killed Hal fast, but Hal had a blue ring.You are kidding? He wasn't a man? Mxy even commented! He said something along the lines of, your only a man due to the amp which is running out. They changed his name for CR issues.
The guardians think they can control him because they understand that it's very difficult to stop anybody who has greed.
He had the body of a man(amp)but wasn't really a man. Everything I said was true like usual. He was still the same boy underneath the amp. They only called him a man because of the lawsuit.
My point stands. The guardians didn't want to defeat him not that they couldn't.
Originally posted by quanchi112He was looking for him or something along those lines.
He found Prime floating, but we don't know actually when this was. It was dark and it doesn't make much sense for him to use Prime after tanking the blast ass opposed to before. Iyo. It's ambigious. The Monitor didn't sense his presence thereafter. I think so. The guy is durable but Superboy can scar him for life. Him being really hurt with the amp shows me that without it in all likelihood he wouldn't last long.