Hiller, Iceman and Maverick.....

Iceman, Maverick and Cpt. Steven Hiller are on patrol one day and run across this dogfight:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f102/t511446.html

Hiller, piloting his F/A-18 Hornet, is in command of Maverick and Iceman, who are piloting their F-14's with Slider and Goose. Hiller sees the alien craft and orders a retreat before the 4 way dogfight combatants see them.

Too late.

Ironman, Jango, Star scream and Vader, all at once, turn their attention to Hiller and his two wingmen.

Hiller, Iceman and Maverick are on the run. They are over a vast desert, with narrow canyons all around. Can they escape and report back to base?

To make things fair, all aircraft here have the same top speed, all are fully fueled and armed, and there are no shields.

Considering Iron Man made a mockery of two F-22 Raptors, far more advanced than the planes in either movie, and could have wiped them out had he decided to use available weaponry, I'd say the pilots are dust.

Especially when you consider Starscream did take a few of them out.

Iron Man took one out accidentally, no less. Their guns didn't bother him and a tank missile didn't do much, so I don't see why plane ones would. Besides, he has flares, as demonstrated.

Iron Man takes them solo.

End.

-AC

ACs right.

Besides.

It'll just be Hiller vs the other side, as Iceman and Maverick'll still be in the showers together or volleyballing in slowmotion together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyN8VN4BSzM

But at least Hiller could set Goose's corpse on fire and throw it out the back of the plane using it as a chaffe flare, delaying his demise a few seconds longer.

You gotta remember that all aircraft have the same max speed, the pursuers must outpilot their prey.

No we dont.

Starscream is WAY faster.

Baymovie Starscream is fast enough to travel between earth and Cybertron/mars etc in very little time.
(Besides f-14s and f-18s have different speeds.)

Hiller is dead.
Jeff Goldblum and his 1995 laptop cannot save him now.

This should have been in the "One sided fights" thread.

Um, yes you do, max speed is the same for all the aircraft, read the OP.

I did **** up putting Mav and Ice in F-14's, although they will have the same max speed, they are slow in manuevering. Lets Replace Iceman with Viper, and put the three pilots in a couple of those quick ass MIG's, the ones in the Top Gun end battle.

Yet you put Starscream (Much faster) in....then try to strip him of all you can.... Gimpboy.

Well the F-22, Starscream outspeeds and manuvures the f14s and f18 and partly transformed, rips their wings off and laughs as the plane crashes to earth. The end.

Read the MVF rules, #7 in particular, I am free to handicap as much as I please.

All aircraft have the same max speed. Hiller, Viper and Mav are in the fast and quick MIG's.

Then f*** this thread, man.

Gimped to pointlessness.

Yeah not really, forces IM, SS, Vader and Jango to rely on their piloting skills instead of their superior craft.

Regardless. Its too gimped away from logic.

And thats a silly thing to say, because Starscreams pilots himself.

And he'd out pilot the humans as easily. As would Ironman.
Anakin or vader could rip the wings off....

So it really changes nothing, but comes across as a spite gimp that fails..

SS has gotta catch them first, he can't chase them down with speed, he must outfly them. And let's get real, Viper, Mav and Hiller are all Top Guns, they won't be easy prey.

No force magic here, just piloting for Vader.

Do me a favor, if all you are gonna do is scream gimp ahoy, then dont post here. No MVF rules are being broken, nothing is out of order.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
SS has gotta catch them first, he can't chase them down with speed, he must outfly them. And let's get real, Viper, Mav and Hiller are all Top Guns, they won't be easy prey.

No force magic here, just piloting for Vader.

Do me a favor, if all you are gonna do is scream gimp ahoy, then dont post here. No MVF rules are being broken, nothing is out of order.

To think you moan when people call you out on your lack of logic, I swear.

"They're all Top Guns.". Yes, because they sent Pee Wee Herman after Iron Man, and Starscream clearly took out inexperienced rookies...(Sarcasm).

Stop being so ridiculous. Here, I know, I'll get the "You can't post without insulting.". You know what? You deserve it here, and I hope Impediment sees what dumb things the Vs forum thread rules cause.

"They're all better, but I'm making them shitter so it's a fair fight.", which it isn't anyway. They'd still win.

Seriously, Pete. What's the point? The point of Vs threads is for fun discussion, but not at the cost of intelligence. If the best way you can come up with a thread is retarded gimping, then don't create any.

"Starscream can't fly as fast because I say so.", what? Dumb. Yet, we're the ones who have to leave the thread? Why not just stop making dumb threads?

Definitely taking this to Impediment. I advise anyone else who feels this kind of gimping is pathetic to do the same.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
To think you moan when people call you out on your lack of logic, I swear.

"They're all Top Guns.". Yes, because they sent Pee Wee Herman after Iron Man, and Starscream clearly took out inexperienced rookies...(Sarcasm).

Stop being so ridiculous. Here, I know, I'll get the "You can't post without insulting.". You know what? You deserve it here, and I hope Impediment sees what dumb things the Vs forum thread rules cause.

"They're all better, but I'm making them shitter so it's a fair fight.", which it isn't anyway. They'd still win.

Seriously, Pete. What's the point? The point of Vs threads is for fun discussion, but not at the cost of intelligence. If the best way you can come up with a thread is retarded gimping, then don't create any.

"Starscream can't fly as fast because I say so.", what? Dumb. Yet, we're the ones who have to leave the thread? Why not just stop making dumb threads?

Definitely taking this to Impediment. I advise anyone else who feels this kind of gimping is pathetic to do the same.

-AC

Agreed.

Also: RJ. Starscream was never shown at his gimped air speed in the movies and your weird little scenario is in conflict with canon.

And "All i wanna do is scream gimp ahoy..?"
No. Rj. I explained that Starscream would (unless placed at a gimped distance from the planes, would destroy them, anyway.
Human pilots cannot make the sort of G turns and maneuvers that Starscream can, and Starscream has faster reactions and better weaponry too.)

The funny thing is, if you go to the rules thread you'll see complaints about Peter regarding his insistence in ignoring what happens in the movies, and trying to change them.

This isn't new.

-AC

Sadly not. 🙁

Just to make it official...

Total mismatch. I'd like to think that each of my team could solo.

I say they all die.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Total mismatch. I'd like to think that each of my team could solo.

I say they all die.

If 2 die through being within ungimped range all three are dead, regardless of who is slightly better than who.

Its like saying "who is the best corpse", in this instance.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f102/t478590.html

7) When the thread starter makes a new thread, it is very important to cement the conditions of the scenario in the first few posts. This is to avoid cunfusion and frustration among the other posters. It will not be acceptable for the thread starter to randomly change the conditions of the thread at random intervals. Once the settings/weapons/gear/handicaps/abilities/etc have been cemented in the first few posts of the thread, that is how they will stay. Therefore, be very sure and for certain of how you want your thread to be constructed.

settings/weapons/gear/handicaps/abilities/etc

handicaps

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