They're not the same, though.
Starscream is more advanced and more intelligent. He's also much faster.
The Earth F-22s are just not as close.
Iron Man would solo them. It's a dumb thread, man.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah, I answer to RJ or Pete. 😄
Then I guess that's a WHOLE lot of dodging you're gonna be doing! Not gonna look good.
Hell, you're probably not even gonna reply to this, Ariel. That's more to do with me being right than anything else though, Ariel.
-AC
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude, maneuvering like SS means they can do all the same shit he can, damn the G forces.
Why do you just ignore stuff, like an idiot?
They CAN'T maneuver like Starscream, that's the whole point. They literally couldn't, scientifically impossible. He's an alien, he isn't affected by g-force. They are.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why do you just ignore stuff, like an idiot?They CAN'T maneuver like Starscream, that's the whole point. They literally couldn't, scientifically impossible. He's an alien, he isn't affected by g-force. They are.
-AC
Me saying they can maneuver the same means just that, they can maneuver the same. Besides, The human pilots are gonna take to the canyons obviously, hardly a place for all out speed.
Well, to be fair, SS doesn't get to participate in this. It wouldn't be fair. It would be a mismatch.
Only humans get to participate.
Stark is smarter than all of them.
He wins there.
Anaking is the best all around...being second in smarts to Stark, and the best pilot out of the humans.
From there...you guys can take your pics.
RJ,
They do have a point about the F-22s.
They can literally pull g's and manuvers that WOULD kill a human, if they were in the cock pit.
I saw this on future weapons. They actually put limiters on the F-22 to keep pilots from killing themselves with it's awesome maneuvers.
It is literally so sturdy that a pilot could try their hardest to cause the craft to sheer, and it wouldn't. Wouldn't even crack. That's how beastly this planes are. That's also why the cost billions of dollars.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Me saying they can maneuver the same means just that, they can maneuver the same. Besides, The human pilots are gonna take to the canyons obviously, hardly a place for all out speed.
No, it doesn't, because they can't. Sorry. It doesn't. It's nonsensical and dumb, and so are you for suggesting it.
As for dogfight feats, he took out about three or four F-22s in the first movie.
Besides, what the f*ck is a "dogfight feat"? You've been in a dogfight or you haven't? We don't need to know much more than Starscream being a massively advanced organism that would outclass, speed, maneuver and fight the rest of them.
Fact.
Originally posted by dadudemon
RJ,They do have a point about the F-22s.
They can literally pull g's and manuvers that WOULD kill a human, if they were in the cock pit.
I saw this on future weapons. They actually put limiters on the F-22 to keep pilots from killing themselves with it's awesome maneuvers.
It is literally so sturdy that a pilot could try their hardest to cause the craft to sheer, and it wouldn't. Wouldn't even crack. That's how beastly this planes are. That's also why the cost billions of dollars.
None of that is true here because he says it's not.
That's literally what he just told me.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Me saying they can maneuver the same means just that, they can maneuver the same.
Nonsense.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriYou know, you made the choice to post here, not us. How hard is it to just ignore the thread if you don't approve? I mean, what motivates a person like you to talk the shit that you do?
No, it doesn't, because they can't. Sorry. It doesn't. It's nonsensical and dumb, and so are you for suggesting it.As for dogfight feats, he took out about three or four F-22s in the first movie.
Besides, what the f*ck is a "dogfight feat"? You've been in a dogfight or you haven't? We don't need to know much more than Starscream being a massively advanced organism that would outclass, speed, maneuver and fight the rest of them.
Fact.
None of that is true here because he says it's not.
That's literally what he just told me.
Nonsense.
-AC
Fact?
Here's some facts:
MY thread.
MY conditions.
NOT yours.
The human pilots can go as fast and manuever the same as SS, FACT.
They are all flying the same type of F22's, which means all aircraft can perform equally, FACT.
No amount of complaining will change these FACTS.
Dogfight feat is Hiller outflying the alien in ID4, it is Maverick facing off against six MIG's, it is Viper and Maverick's Dad facing off against so many MIG's they couldn't count them.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You know, you made the choice to post here, not us. How hard is it to just ignore the thread if you don't approve? I mean, what motivates a person like you to talk the shit that you do?
I wonder when you're gonna say the same shit to Dadudemon, who has said the same things of your F-22 boosting/Starscream gimping as we have; that it's not possible.
Oh, you're not, are you?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Fact?Here's some facts:
MY thread.
MY conditions.
NOT yours.
The human pilots can go as fast and manuever the same as SS, FACT.
FACT that this is a stupid gimp decision and therefore removes any credibility from you or the thread, thus it deserves to be closed the second a mod gets to see it.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
They are all flying the same type of F22's, which means all aircraft can perform equally, FACT.
Ariel, Starscream doesn't FLY an F-22, he is a Cybertronian alien in the visual form of one, not with the same performance as one, you complete cretin.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No amount of complaining will change these FACTS.
My thoughts exactly.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dogfight feat is Hiller outflying the alien in ID4, it is Maverick facing off against six MIG's, it is Viper and Maverick's Dad facing off against so many MIG's they couldn't count them.
Yeah, and all of that means crap against the fact that Starscream would wipe them out, so would Iron Man. Solo.
-AC
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You know, you made the choice to post here, not us. How hard is it to just ignore the thread if you don't approve? I mean, what motivates a person like you to talk the shit that you do?Fact?
Here's some facts:
MY thread.
MY conditions.
NOT yours.
The human pilots can go as fast and manuever the same as SS, FACT.
They are all flying the same type of F22's, which means all aircraft can perform equally, FACT.
No amount of complaining will change these FACTS.
Dogfight feat is Hiller outflying the alien in ID4, it is Maverick facing off against six MIG's, it is Viper and Maverick's Dad facing off against so many MIG's they couldn't count them.
Maverick wasnt alone. Fact.
Migs aint shit next to an F22. Fact. (let alone an alien that can fly between planets in like hours.)
Human pilots cant endure what Starscream can aerodynamically.
Its BULLSHIT that human pilots can cope with what SS can.
Hiller doing all that shit toward the end was in zero g.
I'll say that again: Zero G. And there arent inertial dampeners like there must've been in ID4.
No Hillar's squadron earlier in the movie cried as they were torn apart.
Because no matter how orgasmically you say he flew, earth ships cant deal with shielding. 🙂
By the way, RJ that "My thread not yours" tantrum was pure netsuicidez.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWow, you are so full of anger. All that hot air, all the insults, how's that chip on your shoulder? Do you feel better? Hmm? I know I do, laughter is the best medicine for the soul, and you do make me laugh.I wonder when you're gonna say the same shit to Dadudemon, who has said the same things of your F-22 boosting/Starscream gimping as we have; that it's not possible.
Oh, you're not, are you?
FACT that this is a stupid gimp decision and therefore removes any credibility from you or the thread, thus it deserves to be closed the second a mod gets to see it.
Ariel, Starscream doesn't FLY an F-22, he is a Cybertronian alien in the visual form of one, not with the same performance as one, you complete cretin.
My thoughts exactly.
Yeah, and all of that means crap against the fact that Starscream would wipe them out, so would Iron Man. Solo.
-AC [/B]
DDM doesn't come off to me with the air of superiority that you do. He doesn't throw insults around like you do. He is quite pleasant to talk to, unlike you, Mr. Pewpy pants.
Do you sign on here rubbing your hands together, a shit eating grin on your face, just aching to get in the shit? You have this impression of me, an immature, clueless dolt, but I gotta tell you, if being like you is what it takes to have a clue, to not be an immature idiot, have at it, I want no part of it. I can't imagine living with myself like that, I'd sooner eat a bullet.
Still didn't answer what motivates you to be such an angry little cuss. Breast feeding issues? Dropped on your head as a child?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Maverick wasnt alone. Fact.Migs aint shit next to an F22. Fact. (let alone an alien that can fly between planets in like hours.)
Human pilots cant endure what Starscream can aerodynamically.
Its BULLSHIT that human pilots can cope with what SS can.
Hiller doing all that shit toward the end was in zero g.
I'll say that again: Zero G. And there arent inertial dampeners like there must've been in ID4.No Hillar's squadron earlier in the movie cried as they were torn apart.
Because no matter how orgasmically you say he flew, earth ships cant deal with shielding. 🙂
By the way, RJ that "My thread not yours" tantrum was pure netsuicidez.
Iceman was there, he took out one damn MIG, big deal.
I was talking about when Hiller took to the canyons, not when he was in space.
No shields, OP.
I was just saying that you guys can ***** and moan all you want, not gonna change the conditions.
Shit thread then. 🙁
Hiller lost his ship. Great stuff. Also, Starscream could just transform and rip his wings off.
He wouldnt be wasting time shooting those slow moving avoidable tracer shots for ages allowing Hiller to get away.
Watch Bayformers 1 to get an idea how soon Hiller would be cremated.
By the time Hiller would have gotten to the Oh" of "Oh no! You did not shoot that green shit at ME!!!!", Hillards widow's telegram will have begun its journey to his Pole Dancer wife.