Gamora w/Godslayer vs Karate Kid

He has also dodged Flashes/Speedforce users

Originally posted by Prep-Man
as val can detect and weak spot, yes. you'll either accept it or not, but it's cannon.

You'll have to admit, it's as stupid as Luthor's fruit weapon.

Again, even in the scans where KK was dominating speedsters, they were either: 1) Not serious, 2) An MA noob, or nowhere near Gamorra's level, 3) Was fought defensively or 4) was suffering from insane CIS-itis.

Even if it is stupid, it happened. 90% of the stuff in Silver Age comics was stupid, but that doesn't mean you can just discount it.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Even if it is stupid, it happened. 90% of the stuff in Silver Age comics was stupid, but that doesn't mean you can just discount it.

I'm not discounting it, I'm saying it's stupid.

However, the feat itself doesn't apply to this debate as he's not likely to karate chop the Godslayer from behind. :-/

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
You'll have to admit, it's as stupid as Luthor's fruit weapon.

Again, even in the scans where KK was dominating speedsters, they were either: 1) Not serious, 2) An MA noob, or nowhere near Gamorra's level, 3) Was fought defensively or 4) was suffering from insane CIS-itis.

I really don't care about what you think, because the comics show differently. If Val did this once, then I might agree, but he has done it throughout history.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I really don't care about what you think, because the comics show differently. If Val did this once, then I might agree, but he has done it throughout history.

Well, I don't care what you think either. :-/ If we use stupid PIS scans of one guy beating someone he shouldn't been able to even affect to demonstrate who would win in a VS fight (especially when we know what the guy's powerset is), then Spiderman should be mid-to-high herald for beating Firelord, right?

KK is a walking PIS machine, thing is, we know his powerset and he's been given wins and feats that he shouldn't have been able to do given his powerset.

if you can give a reason other than gamora is a top tier MA (same as Val and Empress) than I'd like to hear it. because she's not winning here.

Again, it wasn't just one time. He did this stuff consistently. The mere fact that they let him into the Legion with the strict rules they have should clue you in

Originally posted by Prep-Man
if you can give a reason other than gamora is a top tier MA (same as Val and Empress) than I'd like to hear it. because she's not winning here.

This was BEFORE her upgrade of super strength, speed, agility and durability. And of course, w/o the Godslayer. Yes, they were sparring, but when has KK EVER taken on someone like Thanos before?

Indicates that she knows 83.4% of all martial arts from all known spacefaring races. KK knows more, but he doesn't have superhuman stats either or a Godslayer at that.

This bio proves that she is indeed a top tier MA.

Ty Goober's Respect thread for scans.

Wow. Anyone know how I can switch those to thumbnails?

Originally posted by D_Dude1210

This was BEFORE her upgrade of super strength, speed, agility and durability. And of course, w/o the Godslayer. Yes, they were sparring, but when has KK EVER taken on someone like Thanos before?

Indicates that she knows 83.4% of all martial arts from all known spacefaring races. KK knows more, but he doesn't have superhuman stats either or a Godslayer at that.

This bio proves that she is indeed a top tier MA.

oh, i don't disagree that she's not a top tier MA, but so is Emerald, who can dodge the likes of Superboy or Mon-El, her weapon is capable of repelling Pulsar, who is in Thanos's league.

Help! Thumbnail directions please.

You know Thanos wasn't seriously trying to kill her there. If he was, she would be dead.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
oh, i don't disagree that she's not a top tier MA, but so is Emerald, who can dodge the likes of Superboy or Mon-El, her weapon is capable of repelling Pulsar, who is in Thanos's league.

Except that she did all this PRE-upgrade AND PRE-Godslayer.

That is why I give her the win over KK.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
You know Thanos wasn't seriously trying to kill her there. If he was, she would be dead.

You know that Mon-El wasn't seriously trying to kill him in his scans either. If he was, he would be dead.

See? I can do that, too!

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Except that she did all this PRE-upgrade AND PRE-Godslayer.

That is why I give her the win over KK.

and? Gamora is a poor woman's Emerald Empress upgrades or not. At least we have SEEN Emerald take out someone who is top tier +++

But he has fought people on that level who were trying to kill him.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
You know that Mon-El wasn't seriously trying to kill him in his scans either. If he was, he would be dead.

See? I can do that, too!

Actually, Mon-El was trying his HARDEST to make a dent. Same with Pulsar, who is a villain. Both failed. Val succeeded.

Both currents?

Gamora dominates!

GBD

Originally posted by Prep-Man
and? Gamora is a poor woman's Emerald Empress upgrades or not. At least we have SEEN Emerald take out someone who is top tier +++

Post the scan (the one in the respect thread doesn't work) so we can debate on the viability of this feat.